Ive heard of alpha, were maybe on mute and set a new one. I have to learn thats the next, next, next up yeah. Theyre using whatever comes after tiktok but yet all the memes that are going around, a lot of those have basis and misinformation. I mean, weve heard Stories Conspiracy theories about j. D vance and pieces of furniture and things like that. Sometimes that joke goes too far. And some people, even Gen Z say, oh, is this sort of thing true . So just as were seeing on the rice, the crazy stuff about Eating Cats And Dogs and mice and ohio, a little bit of happening on the left to resolve and thanks very much. Thats it for us. The news continues the source with Kaitlan Collins starts now seeing t the Source Tonight, Donald Trump declares no more debates as Vice President harris is trying to goad him into a Room Match what is Pete Buttigieg make of it all. Ill ask my Lead Source live and just a moment plus all the former president s friends, one of them is a 911 truther, apparently, who just accompanied him to none other than the 911 memorial, once He Graham says this person is toxic and her words are disturbed perfect and a major announcement is Brewing Tonight about that iranian backed effort to hack the Trump Campaign. Im Kaitlan Collins, and this is the source the Debate Rematch is off. Apparently, Donald Trump rejecting Vice President harris has challenges. He returned to the Campaign Trail Today for the first time since his first face off with harris has everyone saw two nights ago, we had a monumental victory over comrade Kamala Harris she immediately called for a second debate, which means that she was like a Prize Fighter that lost a fight. She was a No Show at the Fox Debate and refused also to do nbc and cbs. So because weve done two debates and because they were successful, there will be no third debate too late anyway, the voting has already begun its too late. Anyway, the voting has already begun. A shirt doesnt sound like the Donald Trump that we saw and heard from just a few weeks ago so we have. Those, three dates and those networks there very anxiously awaiting that date. And those dates, we think we should do three debates so what changed between then and now . Perhaps ardent Trump Supporter republican congressman Mike Collins can tell us he posted right after the debate on Tuesday Night, quote, you want to know who won find out who refuses to do a second debate . Its probably not how the gentleman from georgia is tenth district thought that tweet was going to age. Meanwhile, tonight, the Vice President is clearly hoping to change her Opponents Mind Daring Trump Today, too. A second showdown. I believe we owe it to the voters, they have another debate and what is at stake could not be more important she was out on the Campaign Trail Today. The Vice President also mocked her Rivals Debate Performance during that return in North Carolina intends to end the affordable Care Act now, think about that. Think about that. As he said then in the debate, he made clear he has no plan to replace it. In fact you remember plan, which means no actual plan now the Harris Campaign is predicting to cnn tonight that they do think there will ultimately be another debate. Were hearing from one official who said theyre not taking trump at Face Value when he says the debates, roth arguing instead that he changes his position every day. Trumps own allies were telling me, just as of yesterday, they thought he would certainly show up for round two. We will all have to stay tuned. But in the meanwhile, my lead Source Tonight is the former president ial candidate and the former mayor of south bend, indiana, Pete Buttigieg, who i shouldnt notice here in his personal capacity, not as the transportation secretary, what did you make of trump saying today . No more debates between him and harris . Well, i remember back when he was saying any time any place, but what changed of course is he got beat. He doesnt like being beat. He doesnt like being embarrassed. So im not totally surprised that hes changed his position backed off doesnt want to go through that again, do you think that there will ultimately be another match . Do you think hell be able to because you and i talked about this last time you said that you thought trump was scared to go on the Debate Stage with her. Do you think there will ultimately be another one . Hard to say. You know, there may come a point where the dynamics billed against him and he decides he needs to do Something Thing Anything to shift attention from her winning message, maybe that would motivate him to change his strategy beyond trying to predict what his strategy will be in the future. What i do know is it was a great night for her and it was a really rough night for him. And i think the most important thing about it was that if you watched the debate, he really talked about three things. He talked about himself. Most of all, he talked about her quite a bit and he talked about Joe Biden quite a bit. She as much as possible was talking about you, about the american voter, about the american people. And thats the most important difference in this whole campaign that he is focused on himself. And to some extent still, even now focused on Joe Biden and she is focused on the Big Question that voters were asking, which is hows my life going to be different under a Kamala Harris . Pressed presidency where shes focused on things like affordability of fair tax code, protecting a womans right to choose versus if he becomes president , again, and we are thrown back to the kind of chaos that we experienced with him the first time around do you think that she needs another debate though because hes obviously a pretty wellknown quality quantity. Hes already been president. Hes run again. Shes much newer to the american electorate. And you see that in the polls when it comes to those undecided voters, does she need another debate closer to Election Day in your view . I think the debate went well for her because it was an opportunity to actually talk about the difference in their visions and the difference in their records. But its not the only way to get that across. And you see her campaigning proactively and energetically around the country to continue to get that message out. Youll see the same from tim walz, of course, and her support i think that will be the most important element to continuing to take her message to voters and earn this, this victory. You know, shell be the first to say there is still an Underdog Dynamic here. Shes going to have to work to gain every inch of political ground here. But thats exactly what shes doing. Well, when you ran, you really saturated the Media Market in the sense of your strategy was to go but anywhere to talk to anyone to really build that Name Recognition and obviously worked for you. Is that something she should replicate in the sense of interviews, press conferences, not just the Campaign Trail appearances that weve been seeing well, every Candidate Figures out of mix and a style that works best for them. Summer more focused on covering a lot of geography and traveling a Lot Summer focused on more retail, some preferred town halls, some prefer interviews. What i will say is that she has done well in every test thats been thrown at her. I remember early on when she came out of the gate. So well, people said, well, yes, she doing great now, but after the Honeymoon Week ends, then it wont go so well. And yet, she did. And they said well, its going well for now, but once she sits down for a big interview, things will change. Sat down for a big interview. My great same thing with the debate. But again, shell be the first to say that this is going to be a roller coaster. Look eight weeks is in one sense as the Blink Of An Eye in another sense, its a political eternity. And every campaign will have good days and bad Days Advance lets his and setbacks. And i think shes done a good job of preparing her supporters and her campaign for that. But again, the most important thing is that every day shes talking about the american people, about what shes going to do to continue to create jobs, what shes going to do to grow Small Businesses in this country what shes going to do to help with childcare . Good thing that Donald Trump seems literally almost physically incapable of talking about every time he gets a question about it, you get a strange ramble that raises The Question of whether hes ever actually considered Childcare Policy seriously. Shes various about it wants to expand the child tax credit, wants to make sure that we have paid parental leave in this country so thats going to continue and i think thats how shes going to win. Yeah. That answer youre referencing is the one he gave to the New York economic club last week that that didnt really provide any alternate any concrete legislation that he would support. Thats being polite. It was giberson. But on the debate itself, obviously, debates are good. They are informative. People get a chance to look at these two candidates who want the access to the nuclear codes themselves. But from a political calculus, doesnt move the needle any. She had a strong performance on Tuesday Night, but when you look at theres one major poll thats come out and its just one, but it doesnt show much of a big shift for her, does it actually boost her standing . What does it look like . I think it matters, but nothing no one night. No one event, no one appearance, no One Debate is going to decide this as matter of fact, now, were getting into the stage of the campaign where the thing thats going to decide at most is that groundwork, that organizing people who believe it is important that she when reaching out to friends doing the doorknocking the things that are really takes to gain that ground. Look for better and for worse in todays america, any president ial campaign is a game of inches. Its high, high floors, low ceilings for both of these candidates. And she knows that. What do you make of what were hearing from trumps allies . Well, as Tonight And Trump himself who say whoever calls for a rematch immediately, its a sign that they lost the debate i dont think anybody well, obviously, theyre obliged to say otherwise, but but i dont think Anybody Objective thinks that she didnt win this debate. Certainly when you look at what independent voters had to say about it, what most americans had to say about it. But again, look, just because you won the debate, which she did doesnt mean you get to win the election. Thats why she got right back out there and is back to work trying to earn more votes. Yeah, thats a good point. People argued Hillary Clinton won the debates in 2016 obviously she did not win the election. There was a moment though, on the stage, who are all talking about trump after. And obviously, what he was saying. But there were a few things that harris herself said that stood out to me. Just take a listen to this sachs has said, is that Donald Trumps plan would make the economy worse mine would strengthen the economy in this election, i actually have the endorsement of 200 republicans who have formerly worked with president bush, mitt romney, and John Mccain including the endorsement of former Vice President Dick Cheney and Congress Member liz cheney. She also talked about owning a gun and the second amendment. I mean, that is not the Kamala Harris you Saw Running in 2019, obviously, a democratic primary then but but what do you make of hearing that from a democratic Nominee Bragging about Goldman Sachs improving their economic plan, a Dick Cheney endorsement, talking about how they own a fire her arm. Well, shes done a lot to remind the democrats of why were excited about her, but its also her job to expand the coalition and shes giving us a lot of good reasons why you dont have to be a democrat too. Want her to win. I think pointing out that even the Business Community, i mean, Goldman Sachs is about as respected as it gets in a part of the Business Community thats usually considered more conservative, but even they are looking at the Trump Plan saying, this is bad for the economy. Shes reminding people that shes not to caricature that they would portray as they always do of any democrats. Theyre going to come take all your guns away. Thats just not true. And i think its especially notable No Matter of fact, i think unprecedented that so many people from his party are going out there and saying vote for her. I mean, the idea that you would have a coalition in this country that includes people from people like Bernie Sanders to people like me to people like Dick Cheney all saying for different reasons, but all saying Donald Trump has no Business Being president. You got to elect Kamala Harris is important, but the other thing is, its not just republicans whove worked for george bush, who are saying you should vote for Kamala Harris, a shockingly large proportion of republicans who worked for Donald Trump people he picked are turning around and saying either not saying anything with holding their endorsement, which itself is very telling or saying that you really shouldnt be voting for him. That is the most telling thing of all, not just establishment republicans, that he never liked anyway, his own people are running screaming for the hills and dont put this guy back in power. I think Dick Cheney technically formerly endorsed her before Bernie Sanders has formally endorsed her, though he obviously supports are people that i do ask you about whats happening in springfield. So stick around if you will. 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When you say i mourn liebermann at the pentagon, and this is cnn trail in arizona today, Donald Trump repeated a false claim that haitian immigrants in springfield, ohio are abducting peoples pets its recording of 911 calls, even show residents are reporting that the migrants are walking off with the towns geese they take into geese you know, where the Giza In The Park and the leg and even walk off with their pets. My dogs been taken. My dogs for so this is going only happen these people are the worst he is repeating something that he amplified to 67 Million people on Tuesday Night during that debate, except then, of course, trump said they are not only taking pets, but also eating them as officials have said, and we have repeated endlessly on air, there are no credible reports that that is happening. People to judge is back with me and i think whats important about this is that this isnt just something thats happening online or on the Debate Stage. The City Hall in springfield, Ohio Today had to be evacuated because of a bomb threat. Luckily, everything was was okay. Hey but just to see the impact that something like this could be having on peoples lives. What do you make of what whats happening . This is a strategy and theres even more to it than demonizing immigrants, although thats obviously part of what hes doing this is a strategy to get us talking about the latest crazy thing that he did, Whatever Urban Legend he amplifies right now, its about people eating cats are geese or whatever because he cannot afford for us to be talking about his record. He doesnt want us talking about the fact that we lost manufacturing jobs on his watch even before covid which is why the United Auto Workers against him. He doesnt want us talking about the fact that his main economic Policy Promise he actually kept was to cut taxes for the rich. He doesnt want us talking about how he demolished the right to choose in this country that hes the reason that even idf could be