Something that happens to all of us source with kaitlan collins starts. Now see tomorrow saving the source tonight, vice president harris wheels down in philadelphia as donald trump is wrapping up his probe from maralago ahead of their first didn't perhaps only debate plus a source exclusive for you tonight, a mastermind behind project 2025 is here here for his first tv interview since resigning. Donald trump is trying to disavow the roadmap for his second term as democrats use it against him and miami dolphins star tyreek hill is here to join me tonight after police just released body cam footage of the traffic accident incident where he was dragged out of his car and placed in handcuffs just hours before the dolphins season opener. Actions that his legal team calls excessive. I'm kaitlan collins and this is the source as they say, the stage is set and this is what you'll see tomorrow night when donald trump and kamala harris come face to face for the first time ever. I should note at these two podiums and philadelphia, vice president harris will be at the electron on the right side of your screen. Donald trump on the left and it will all take place in just 24 hours from right now, harris has arrived tonight in philadelphia after spending several days prepping across the state and pittsburgh, trump, we are toll remains at his maralago club and hill arrived there tomorrow after a weekend out on the campaign trail where he was pushing election conspiracies and threatening to jail hill election officials. Harris for her part, has had this prediction about how she thinks tomorrow will go in a new interview out today he plays through this really old and tired playbook, right? where he was no floor for him in terms of how long he would go and and we should be prepared for that he tends to fight for himself, not for the american people. And i think that's going to come out during the debate, but i think he's going to lie. And he has a playbook that he is used in the past be his attacks on president obama hillary clinton. So we should expect some of that might come out our sources tell us that given what she's expecting, might come out tomorrow, harris is bracing for a barrage of attacks. Not only has she been studying trump's past policy positions, but also his past insults about her meanwhile, the trump campaign is telling us that he'll make the case that harris quote, owns everything when it comes to the policies of the biden administration officials say that trump will be himself something that even his own allies are privately wondering whether it will help or hurt him kilgo in game time, ready justice he does for every interview every rally that he does, this is not something that is a heavy lift for him. Well, i think that when he stays on the issues, policies, i absolutely those are those are the winning issues, but i think just stay focused on the issue. And, you know, don't make don't make things personal the through line is clear. They would like for trump to stay focused on the issues the trump team is also teasing to expect some surprises tomorrow night, i should note that what we are going to watch tomorrow night, all of us it could be the first and only debate that we see between harris and trump. I want to get straight to my panel of political experts tonight to start us off. And david axelrod you don't know what this feeling is like. This is incredibly having ptsd i mean, the pressure after looking at the polls that came out yesterday from the new york times and siena college showing this race could not be tighter voters still have questions about at least one of these candidates what are the 24 hours before a debate like? they're, they're incredibly anxious. But the thing is that if you've prepared well, then you should have some confidence that, you know the questions that are going to be asked and you also know how you're going to answer them and how trump is likely going to answer them. And you prepare for something that you can't predict because trump is an asymmetrical well, fighters, so he can say or do anything. I think the goal for her is to stay focused on her mission, which is to deliver her message to the american people. But one thing i want to point out, normally like when we had a bad debate in 2012, famously with president obama, the first debate we had to for debates after that we had a vice presidential debate in between so the stakes of that debate were not nearly as great this is probably the last debate. It's the last big event between now and the election where they will have an audience like this to try brian influence voters. Yeah, i've heard from sources on both sides that they think there will be another debate. I think it depends on how tomorrow goes, but can you overprepped for a debate? i mean, trump always evokes the mitt romney debate saying that he was too prepared for actually mitt romney did pretty damn well in that first debate. I wish he had prepared a little less for that but so i mean you know, trump is trump. Okay. And people will say, gee, i hope you'll stick to the issues and so on. This is his seventh presidential debate, but not a whole lot of evidence. No one's ever had more, by the way, which isn't advantage for him. But he's not going to change. He's almost 80 years old. He's not going to change. He's going to be more like he's ever been and especially if she is composed and confident, i think it's gonna be hard for him if he she doesn't engage on the terms that he likes to set for these debates. Yeah. And he's such a known quantity to everyone who, but we'll be watching all the millions she is not as known. I mean we know her well, you worked with her. I covered her, but for those who don't know her, who are going to be tuning it. One, i just think the image of the contrast, the two of them will be striking for people watching. But what does she need to do on that stage tomorrow night? do you think i really hope she is herself. I agree with david. She has prepared she knows where she wants to stand on issues and for those who do not know her yet, allow her to introduce herself and reintroduce herself to voters and do a couple of things. One, i'm the adult in the room and i can do this job. Two things are not great, but they can get better under my leadership and three, look at this guy. Do you want to do that again? no. That's all she needs to do. And i think there's a whole bunch of pontification going on about this. I think if she can land those three things and then be do it in her own way. Don't do it in a robotic way that people think like this is how a woman candidate has to present herself when she's out there on the campaign trail. People love her. She's, she's personable, she's a gauging human being. Don't talk to him respectfully, don't talk to the moderator, talk to the american people. For the record, i like hearing a trump standin. I'm sorry, harry. I like to think i have better here than he does know. That wasn't personally. I'll give him really i mean, you looked at these numbers two after the harris campaign is saying a lot of don't ignore the polls, don't focus on that, focus on what we want to get done. Yeah, sure. Okay. Whatever you everyone's looking at the polls every five seconds, even if they say they're not i mean, look, if you look at the polling data, what we know is that kamala harris came out when she became the presumptive democratic nominee. And skyrocketed up right. Took that mantle, took that momentum, and ever since then, she's kind of flatlined a little bit, maybe dropped a little bit in some of those key battleground states like pennsylvania tonight, tomorrow night is a chance to sort of turn the tide, say, wait a minute, i'm going to take hold of this campaign. We know from those new york times, sienna college polls, what does it 28% of voters say they want to hear, they need to hear more about kamala harris. If you look at those who are undecided, that number is actually nearly double that. It's near 50% of undecided voters who say that. So the bottom line is tomorrow night's a real opportunity because donald trump has consistently been disliked by more voters than he has been light and she has to say, you know what, i'm going to take this if you don't like donald trump, vote for me, i can be an adequate standard and then the real question is going to be is can she actually deliver those lines in a way that matches up with how popular she is now versus let's say those second, third, fourth, fifth, six. However, number of debates there were back in the 2020 democratic primary season or her debate performance has kind of fell off. She has to be the person who show up now. First debate against joe biden, who delivered that great line and not be the person who shop in those latter debates. That police seem to look come to last time he was running for president. And i think one thing that he has been scarred by was how that first debate with biden went. He himself has recognized that he was too aggressive i want you to just listen how the two candidates are setting the expectations for tomorrow night you know, if i destroy her in the debate, they'll say trump suffered a, you milley aiding defeat today no matter what. One thing you want to really get get across a little. There's a lot, but look, it's time to turn the page on the divisiveness it's time to bring our country together. Chart a new way forward what's happening inside the trump campaign, if you had to guess tonight, what is the scene at maralago look like this evening? they're probably just going through the last set of questions like it's probably much more casual, it's not a very formal setup, especially now at the way they did it in 16, which was very formal debate prep 20, it was a little less formal. They felt that being president every day and doing the press conferences and everything, i use juae at the time that was good practice here. He's brought in tulsi gabbard, but honestly he's probably not doing a ton necessarily in the traditional debate prep. Also, it's the night before, right? you don't necessarily want to overt do it the night before the big game and get too much into your head. So if you're him right now, you just got to hang out and make sure that when it comes to tomorrow, because if you're kamala harris, part of this is, you know, you can knock trump off as mark, but what is it and how are you going to do it and he just needs to know that she's going to be trying to do that tomorrow and just stay on your mark. That muted mic will be the most helpful thing for him tomorrow night to stay on his mark. Well, as the muted mics thing, the harris campaign is very upset what they had thought it basically tooth and nail trying to because they believed it would be more effective for her to be able to cut in and interject when trump is speaking, is it harder for her if she can't do that tomorrow night? well, i think one thing that will be hard as if he's speaking, but as mic is muted and she's hearing it, but the audiences and hearing it that's a distraction. And i think that's more difficult, but i think it's interesting that his campaign was so emphatic that the mic remain muted because i think it does reflect a realization hisham, that he can go overboard. So he's got seat belts for tomorrow night. I would just add until the debate between joe biden and donald trump this year, donald trump had basically lost every single general election debate. So they want to stick to the format that they had against joe biden because it's the only time he's actually won a gosh darn debate. Yeah. But the question is, was it? because of the muted mics or the muted opponent? yeah, we will find out. That's a great, great point. You know, we saw this contrast last time would trump and biden, obviously on biden's age, it is what ultimately drove him from this race tomorrow night by a lot, donald trump will be the oldest candidate on that stage. Yeah. You know, if we can go back. I don't know month ago amid the american public was say, it's like feels like a lifetime at this point the american public was saying they didn't want to rematch of joe biden and donald trump will guess what? they don't have it anymore. And so they get to choose if they do want to turn the page to the next generation, one party made that choice. One party didn't. And so i think that that contrast i'm out on the debate is, is there a risk of trump's rambling like he did with his child answer the other day, which he invited could not neither could answer at the first debate, he still has now developed an answer to it clearly, is there a possibility that donald trump's going to ramble in an answer yes. Will it be on childcare specifically that i don't know. And who knows if he'll even get the question about it? honestly debates don't pick winners of campaigns, but think definitely can decide the losers of campaigns it is not when you win a debate, its show only because your opponent did so poorly and you were able to capitalize on those moments. Remember the terry mcauliffe, glenn youngkin race, right? that debate. Terry mcauliffe said during it, he talked about parents and not being and that the state should have more access to their children's education, that he should that's a paraphrase, but it was more about state being able to control things. The youngkin team immediately clip that and put that out. And this was at the time when especially in northern virginia, when you're looking at like fairfax county in loudon county, we're parents, we're getting super upset about school boards and the way their children being treated, coming out of covid, it didn't pick the winner of the debate, but it certainly made the moment from a callup to have the huge mess them. That. Is what kamala wants to avoid. Yeah, we'll see if there's any of those moments when i thank you all will all be watching it together tomorrow night. And one subject that is likely to come up is project 2025. Up next, i have an exclusive first tv interview with the former director of project doug 2025, who resigned after backlash from the trump campaign, plus miami dolphins wide receiver star tyreek hill is here to join me live after he was detained by police yesterday and now we are seeing the body cam video for the first time. Enlisted his attorneys say was excessive behavior by the police straight days i can change it change and wife not changed sexual orientation. I'm not changing the political party. We're going to go to the house with what we got here okay. Car saturday, october 5th on cnn it's still have symptoms from moderate to severe ulcerative colitis or crohn's disease af