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Thing, nonsense all right . All right. Kara swisher. Thank you so much. Great to see you. Thanks for joining us. The news continues here on cnn i welcome to viewers joining us from the united states, canada, and all around the world. Im Christina Macfarlane, Max Foster, just ahead. Donald trump hit with a revamped indictment the Department Of Justice tries to work around a controversial immunity ruling by the Supreme Court ahead. And israeli operation in the West Bank leaves multiple palestinians dead. What the idf says they were targeting following a highly contested election venezuelan opposition supporters escape persecution at home to build a new life abroad from london this is Cnn Newsroom with Max Foster and Christina Macfarlane and we begin with that new indictment against Donald Trump for his involvement in the January 6 insurrection. He is not off the hook for allegedly attempting to overturn the 2020 election. The Justice Department special counsel, Jack Smith betting the new shorter indictment filed on tuesday will hold up to the Supreme Courts divisive ruling on president ial immunity last month, which granted trump sweeping protections. The revised documents still charges trump with the same four Felony Counts that he faced before, which include conspiracy to defraud the united states and obstruction. But the new version meant to withstand Supreme Court scrutiny, obvious at trumps acts on January 6 were unofficial you can absolutely be prosecuted. Trump says the new indictment is an act of Desperation And Election interference by Deranged Special Counsel is also fundraising off what he calls the Hoax And Witch hunts heres cnns kaitlin polantz the Justice Department has rewritten the charges against Donald Trump related to the 2020 election, focusing around his role as a candidate, as he tried to spread lies of Election Fraud. So this is the case thats existed for a year in Federal Court In Washington, dc and was on hold as the Supreme Court looked at questions of president ial immunity, they said that Trump Couldnt be prosecuted or taken to trial on things he was doing while he was president officially after the election, while he was still serving, even on January 6. And so the Justice Department has now responded by going to the federal Grand Jury In Washington She Tin and cutting down the charges against him. Theyve cut out things like what Donald Trump was saying to the Justice Department and officials, there about spreading allegations of Election Fraud across the country. And instead, they are making the focus be about Donald Trump and what he was told by his campaign and what he was telling private advisers of his to do to try and spread the idea of Election Fraud especially in Battleground States and two Block Congress from certifying his loss of the election one of the things though that is very important going forward in the coming days, were going to i see a lot of discussion about this is the role of Mike Pence as the Vice President. Pence is still in this Charging Document against Donald Trump. The rewritten pared Version And Pence is very likely to be a witness, both in the coming weeks in upcoming proceedings that have yet to be scheduled. And then if the Justice Department is allowed to bring him in as a Trial Witness before a jury. Thats because the Justice Department now says Mike Pence was not always just in the Executive Branch under the constitution. He was working for the congress, or he was presiding over congress as president of the senate on January 6. And thats how trump was trying to pressure him to block the election result. Caitlin polantz, cnn, Washington Attorney and legal Affairs Commentator Areva martin is with us live from los angeles. Thank you so much for joining us. How would you describe this . New indictment then . Is it watered down . Is it simplified well, max, what it is is its an attempt by the Department Of Justice to meet the standards that have been laid out by the Supreme Court in that controversial and shocking a ruling, the court ruled that Donald Trump could not be prosecuted thank you for conduct within his Exclusive Constitutional Authority that left the Department Of Justice with a dilemma trying to move forward with the charges while at the same time not charging him for things that would be considered in his Exclusive Constitutional Authority, knowing that those types of charges would be stricken by the Trial Court. So now we have this superseding indictment, this slimmeddown indictment, this effort by the Department Of Justice to reframe the conduct to put it in the context of Donald Trump acting as candidate. Trump engaging with private individuals in this conspiracy too old were turn the election of Joe Biden no longer Donald Trump, and the actions that he was involved in are engaging with the Department Of Justice or the interim attorney general, jeffrey carr. So it still remains to be seen, though, if this new indictment smaller 39 pages compared to the 45 or so pages will meet muster and will survive at the Trial Court level in new legal opinion though, does this weaken the case against trump in the attempt here to really act within the margins of what the Supreme Court has laid out in july is that we can that case what is definitely going to be a herculean task, assuming this case does get passed, a motion for dismissal and ends up in the hands of a jury because essentially a lot of the narrative, a lot of the storytelling, a lot of what happened nope, to that Period Wont be admissible as evidence because this shocking ruling by the supreme Court Decision prevents the Department Of Justice from making any references to conduct conversations, engagement with jeffrey clark, who was a member of the Department Of Justice this is at the time you look at the original indictment, there are about 30 references to the Department Of Justice in this superseding indictment, there are zero references to the Department Of Justice. So clearly, the Justice Department, Jack Smith has a very difficult task moving forward, trying to this case alive given this unity shield, i would trump soap, be able to use president ial immunity on the basis that he was president absolutely. Max, i think were going to see this case litigated further. And no matter what determination this Trial Court makes we should expect to see this court, case litigated all the way back to the Supreme Court in those six very conservative justices that made this initial determined nation about president ial immunity. No indication that they would rule any differently. So its not clear that Jack Smith will ever achieved the desired outcome in terms of holding Donald Trump accountable for the actions of January 6. We heard from Katelyn Polantz there in that report, the importance that Mike Pence former Vice President , might play in all of this in the Indictment Attempts to reframe trumps relationship with Mike Pence, emphasizing that he was acting as trumps running mate. I mean, what do you make of that . And whether or not we will likely see pence called as a witness. I think the Justice Department absolutely want to call Mike Pence again. Mike pence in his capacity as the president over the senate, as a member of the congressional branch, as opposed to his role as Vice President and a part of the Executive Branch of government. Again, Big Fight Over what was Mike Pence doing, what capacity was he acting in a when he was engaging with Donald Trump over not certifying the vote on January 6, the Electoral College votes not clear. Again, that Jack Smith is going to be able to convince a Trial Court, an appellate court, and particularly this Supreme Court, that Mike Pence was acting in his capacity as a member of congress versus as in his capacity as a member of trumps cabinet. If trump wins, hell be able to get this thrown out. What he in the election at puts a huge amount of pressure on him to obviously win the election because this now add, this context, this legal contexts one thing thats clear is that its not likely that there will be any trial on the merits of this case before the November Election. And if trump does win, as you said, max, chances are, this case goes away as will any of the federal cases that have been brought against Donald Trump. Hes already made it clear that he is going to be a dictator on day one, and that includes dictating what the Department Of Justice can and cannot do and which cases will survive in which cases well not. So its very clear that if he does win the federal cases are likely to go away. Now, we still have so state charges of particularly in the State Of Georgia that are pending against him. We have the State Case in new york. Those cases in theory cannot be dismissed by the president of the united states, but we can expect that Donald Trump would put tremendous pressure even on those State Prosecutors if he is elected president martin, as ever. Thank you for analysis thank you know, Kamala Harris and Tim Walz have agreed to their first formal interview as a president ial ticket and happening exclusively on cnn the Vice President and Minnesota Governor will sit down with Cnn Thursday during their Bus Tour through the Battleground State of georgia thats, been criticized for going more than a month as democrats standard bearer without doing a News Conference or indepth interview. So lets Chief Political Correspondent dana bash, will be asking the questions you can watch their conversation right here on cnn this thursday at 9 00 p. M. Eastern. Thats 9 00 a. M. In beijing and 5 00 a. M. In Abu Dhabi now at least nine palestinians have been killed in the West Bank after the israeli military launched raids and airstrikes overnight. Thats according to the palestinian health ministry. Israeli Security Forces say they were carrying out a Counterterrorism Operation in to Refugee Camps to quote, four what islamic iranian terrorist infrastructure. Cnns Paula Hancocks is live for us in Abu Dhabi this hour. Paula well max, the information we have at this point from the israeli side is that hundreds of israeli military are involved in this. Now we understand at this point that four battalions of the border police are involved, including or as well as one that from the undercover troops and, is also the military. Theres also shin bets the intelligence units. So it is a significant operation that appears to be underway at this point at a number of different areas, Refugee Camps, as you say in the northern part of the West Bank than what weve heard from the Palestinian Red Crescent Society is that nine have been confirmed to have been killed. At this point, we understand from the Ministry Of Health as well that they were either killed from airstrikes by the air or also strikes on the ground. That images that have been coming through from that Area Show is israeli military bulldozers clearing roads in the area. And we understand that it is ongoing at this point. This really is a very significant operation. It appears we have in recent months been seeing these incursions as they call them by the israeli military, into certain areas of the West Bank to target certain elements. They say that there are a rainy and backed elements. Hamas Islamic Jihad within the West Bank. And then they withdraw. But this does appear to be something new. Now i want to read something from the israeli Foreign Minister. He did tweet saying that what they are doing is trying to thwart the islamic iranian terrorist Infrastructure But Something interesting, he also said was quote, we must address this threat just like were handling Terror Infrastructure in Gaza Including Temporary Evacuation Palestinian residents, and any step necessary. This is a war like any other. And we must win it. Now that quote alone does suggest that this is just The Start potentially of something bigger talking about evacuating palestinians from different areas in the West Bank. We have heard from Islamic Jihad, the palestinian militant group, condemning what is happening, calling it an open and undeclared war. Also saying that their fighters have managed to shoot down an israeli drone near jeanine. We for us a military about this and saying that their fighter it is are currently engaged in trying to target the israeli military itself, saying that they are using quote, heavy volleys of direct bullets. So this certainly seems to be an ongoing operation in a number of different areas. Certainly the deaths that we have heard about have been in janine and in two bost two towns, cities in the northern part of the West Bank, we are still gathering more information. Max, christina Paula Hancocks. Thank you paula. All right ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy says an incursion into Russias Kursk Region is just the beginning of a much larger plan to end the war. And hes going to to make Need Help to make it happen. President zelenskyy discuss his plans in a News Conference on tuesday, adding hell be traveling to the United Nations General Assembly in the coming weeks to speak with u. S. President Joe Biden, who he says is crucial to his multistep plan. Well, deal is not primitive. They just aco just one part of the plan that is already performed as kursk region. The second part is ukraines strategic place in the world, security infrastructure. The third part is a Pressure Package from a powerful package to force russia to end the war diplomatically the fourth part is economic Ukraines Army Chief confirmed a key objective of the Kursk Incursion was drawing russian troops away from vulnerable cities. Adding that around 30,000 russian forces have been redeployed to kursk so far, cnn is unable to independently verify that Number Salma joining us with the latest some of this is significant because since this incursion happened with began at the, towards The Start of august, we have been questioning what the bigger picture is, the bigger plan is here for ukraine. What is it that President Zelenskyy is putting forward as a plan . What more details do we know about that . I would call this an outline, not a plan at best. Its very three, very broad, but its important to know the context in which this is occurring, right . So this happened tuesday afternoon, the second day into ukraine, dressed receiving this massive aerial assault from russia in President Zelenskyy wants to portray he still on top. He still has the upper hand. Hes still riding that momentum from kursk so very much in that context, he says, i will probably be meeting with President Biden next week around the u. N. General assembly. And i have this fourstep plan. And the first part of that Victory Plan is invading kursk. And ive already done that, so im already on the way. He also detailed two types of weapons that ukraine is developing. According to him, including longrange drones and ballistic missiles. Now i dont know the viability of these weapons. I think its unlikely wed see them on the battlefield, but yet again, President Zelenskyy, theyre projecting strength and even poking fun at President Putin at one point saying, look, he cant even defend kursk hes going after a city that No One knows a reference to. The graffs. But in saying that hes also acknowledging that the Battlefield Picture is mixed, there are parts of that battlefield where ukrainians are outmanned, outgunned, are on the backfoot. Russian troops are advancing in that context, hes also yet again, appealing for western help and asking western nations to loosen the restrictions on the use of those weapons. So a lot there, but fundamentally, youre looking at a President Zelenskyy whos trying to hold onto the narrative, hold onto the momentum from kursk can say, we got this even as these russian assaults come in, he went into kursk, didnt he, without formal permission . Then as it were from the west, hes also pushing to get into the Air Space now and further into russia. Do you think theres any chance that you might take a punt and go for it and hope that he wont get a backlash from the west i think we know that theres a lot that happens behind closed doors. He has been in lockstep with his partners throughout the united states and nato has to play this week very fine Balancing Act of course, not aggravating putin further inflaming tensions, not, not worsening this conflict, but also of course, giving zelenskyy what he needs in order to win. Look, theres a lot that can happen here, but what we do know is this is a sliding scale throughout this conflict. What nato has that no two has sometimes turned into a yes or maybe so he might get a yellow light agreeing light. So theres a lot that needs to be worked out. And if theres this meeting next month with President Biden, you can expect that biden will want to give him something, right . Salma. Thank you so much. Now, the delay for the latest spacex launch, what its they why the Polaris Dawn Mission wont get off the ground until friday at the earliest. Now, thats next on Cnn Newsroom moscow is trying to calm fears over the security of telegram after his, the Apps Founder was arrested in france will have the details on what the kremlin is saying after the break. Im, thinking im going to die and i thought that was it finally arrives with we have tried right now streaming on max choose Advil Liquid gels for faster, stronger, and longer lasting relief than tylenol rapid release jails because advil Targets Pain at the source of inflammation. So for faster pain relief advil, the pain away, Car Insurance is up 20 this year. So i went to the experian in

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