Sara fischer. Thank you. So much and any thank you all for watching Anderson Cooper 360 starts right now tonight on 360, his Campaign Calls it trump on steroids and says its all Hands On Deck as the former president kicks off a new blitz through battleground states starting today in michigan also tonight, my conversation with former Trump National security adviser, hr mcmaster about his new book, the complex portrait he paints of his old boss and whether he would ever work. In a Trump White House. Again for a special counsel jack smith points a finger at the judge who dismiss the classified documents case. As he asd, a higher court to revive it. Gd evening. Thanks for joining us. Again tonight with what might be described as the first day of the rest of don trumps campaign. It follows a week largely dominated by the Democratic Convention in several weeks, abuzz surrounding his new opponents. Now, were told to expect him to hold multiple events a week and visit two states a day today began at Arlington National cemetery where he honored the 13 american troops killed in a Suicide Bombing three years ago during the chaotic pullout from afghanistan. Speaking later in a social media posting and then a detroit he incorporated todays anniversary into his campaign. Vice president kamala bragg that she was the last person in the room. She was the tough ones. She was the last person in the robe during that disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan Decision caused by Kamala Harris, joe biden, the milesian and afghanistan, said off the collapse of american credibility and respect All Around The World the former president also said he thinks the country is closer now to World War Iii than ever. He called for the establishment of a Space National guard to complement the space force. He launched his president and repeated past exaggerations about the military being in his words, out of ammunition. He also secured the endorsement is expected to former hawaii and Tulsi Gabbard, who was helping him prepare for him his first debate with Vice President harris. If in fact that comes to pass because the two sides seem to be debating the rules of it. At the moment, seem incursion. Thomas is traveling with Trump Campaign. She joins us, excuse me, kristen holmes. She joins us now from detroit with new reporting on the debate and more person im sorry, its been a long couple of weeks. So theres been a lot of backandforth starting the mics for the september debate. Where does this now stand the two sides appear to be at an impasse. So heres what we know when the original debate was between President Joe Biden and donald trump, they agreed to the same rules. They agreed to with the cnn debate, which was that the mic would be muted when the other candidate was speaking im trumps team thought that that debate went well, that first debate with cnn and they want to mimic those results. Kamala harris is team is saying, well, new candidate and new debate rolls. We dont want those mics muted. I do want to stress here that a lot of this is posturing as well as them trying to position their candidate on both sides in the best right now, Donald Trumps seem to a little bit step on the argument that his campaign was trying to make about keeping those rules the same. Take a listen to what he said when he was in virginia earlier today i dont know. Doesnt matter to me. Id rather have it probably on, but the agreement was that it would be the same as it was last time one thing to be clear here about Kamala Harris, donald trump, three weeks ago when Kamala Harris was moved to the top of the ticket and donald trump seem to backfire away from the debate overall, Kamala Harris was saying, wait, you cant do that. You already agreed to this debate in these terms, doesnt matter who the candidate is and Donald Trumps seem was saying no, everything has changed. Now, the two of them have swapped roles. Kamala harris is saying everything has changed. There are new rules and Donald Trumps team is saying, we want it to be the same to what we agreed to with President Joe Biden. Again, a lot of this is posturing. We will obviously see how this plays out. The big question is what this means for september 10. And will they both actually be on the stage . Hes also obviously been bashing abc news, which is the site for the debate, will see what, are you hearing from the trump team regarding the former president s campaign . Scheduled for the weeks ahead so i want to be very clear about one thing. Yes. Donald trumps team is saying that they are going to ramp up their campaign. That is going to be donald trump on steroids, that its going to be multiple stops in a day. But we have to include the caveat that we have heard this before at multiple times during this campaign that he was going to ramp it up, that he would hes going to change his posture and yet we havent really seen that now this week has been a little bit different. He still does have to down days tuesday and wednesday. Hes going to be in florida, but he is visiting many battlegrounds days. Horse he was in michigan today is going to be back in michigan next week its also going to be holding this town hall in wisconsin. They actually just send out a notification saying Tulsi Gabbard was going to be the moderator. I think that event is one to watch. And heres why we know that donald trump has had a hard time getting its voting now, the Kamala Harris at the top of the ticket, so they are trying different kinds of events. Saw last week, it was a series of what they call messaging events, which meant smaller crowds, smaller venues. One topic, donald trump often doesnt stay on that one topic, but it was shorter speeches, not this kind of all over the place, ranting type of rally speech. Now theyre trying this town hall. It is not being mediated overall by a news network the way they normally are. Cnn, fox news is doing another one with him and other day is just being done by Tulsi Gabbard. Well see if that is a way for him to get his messaging to voters. And then therell be in pennsylvania on friday, well see what happens week after that. I always have to caveat it, anderson, because again, weve heard this before that hes going to ramp it up and then it kind of goes back to the slower pace. Well see what happens in the coming weeks. Or kristen holmes, thanks so much joining us is ashley etienne, former Communications Director for the Vice President , also trump 2016, about deputy Communications Director bryan lanza and cnn political commentator alyssa far griffin. Alyssa, the Harris Campaign, obviously things keeping the mics are hot at the debate would be to their benefit. Do you agree yeah and. It, shows how much the joe biden calculations are different from Kamala Harriss Kamala Harris is a confident debater. Shes a former prosecutor, and i think theyre calculation as they want to see donald trump get a little unhinged. They want the American Public to hear if theres crosstalk, if theres namecalling, if theres some kind of, you know, goading her into something, will she has the floor this is a change from the rule that were agreed to, but i also think that Donald Trumps message on truth social about this is kind of laying a pretext to back out of the debate if he wants to, hes been going after the moderators. Hes been going after the rules because he knows this is a very different candidate than hes ever had to debate before. Shes the younger candidate. Shes got the momentum lets talk, we expected to be against. They can easily resolve this. The easy thing would be either keep the rules as they are and have a press pool in so that the American Public knows what set off air i dont see any reason the Harris Campaign backs out, but i think Donald Trumps keeping that door open. Brian, do you think he my backend . No. Theyre doing debates. Im not worried about that. I think its important to remember that donald trump debated Hillary Clinton in 2016 and everybody felt she had momentum and they felt she was a dimensional candidate and he, you know, the viewers, at least the voters ultimately thought he won those debates. So i think hes looking forward to it. I think from hayes, the standpoint is like listen, a deal is a deal was a deal you made the deal you wanted to see an end rules were doing the cnn rules on on abc. Fine. The harris debates said fine if thats the final state, now theyre coming back and wanted to change the rules and trump being a businessman in his campaign been like a business, is looking for an opportunity to try to leverage a second debate, how important is it that you want these mics muted if you want the really muted or if you want them unmuted well, lets get a second debate on nbc. I think this is all just a strategy to try to get more debates and thats a good thing. Ashley a. Do you think the Trump Campaign actually wants more debates and why do you think the Harris Campaign wants to change the rules around the microphone said their mics will be on. Absolutely not. He doesnt he doesnt want it would crumble here is he doesnt want more than one debate with her. Thats why you to alyssas point, he trying to we get out of this one. He definitely doesnt want a second. Heres the thing. The one thing, you know, his ego could not take is to be beaten by a woman and what i do know about Kamala Harris is a couple of things. One, she suffers absolutely no fools to. Shes not making the same mistakes that democrats have historically made shes not going to pull any punches about his record and shes going to lean into her own. And the third thing is this splitscreen will really say the entire story. Well tell the entire story. Youll have one guy who look old, angry, and small up against the woman who looks like the very promise of america. So i dont think donald trump really wants it. Will Kamala Harris, thats why he keeps trying to back out of this thing and make Making Excuse after excuse after excuse. And based on what i know about her, i wouldnt want to debate her either. Alyssa, the Harris Campaign put out this video today in response to the foreign president. Apparently waffling on, on the debate. I just want to play this but why not debate her mole. But because they already know everything trumps, you know, not doing the debate thats something now, i mean, right now i say, why should i do a debate of leading in the polls and Everybody Knows who Everybody Knows me and so they put a Chicken Sound over this. I bring this up just because its notable how quicker the Harris Campaign is to put out videos like this. And i mean not that i dont think the Biden Campaign probably would have put out a thought to put out a video like this. But how quickly they put out Something Like this. I dont know but its effective or not, but videos, memes, this is a campaign that seems for more nimble, even though a lot of the same people are involved with it yeah, in Donald Trumps never run against a Campaign Like this. In fact, his team was always the one that was a lot quicker on social media. They would kind of play into the memories and has fast responses and hes met his match in this now to be fair to trump in these debates, listen, in 2016, he went against a very formidable foe with Hillary Clinton, and he performed well in those debates. And obviously one, but this is different. Keep in mind this election. Hes running against an effective communicator as a former president postjanuary six, who is now a felon. Theres things hes going to have to answer for in this debate. That are so fundamentally different than 2016 where he had no record and he can just give a vision and an idea of what he wanted. And i think hes afraid of that. We never really saw that moment in the biden trump debate, where he was called out on his history of sexual abuse or the fact that he had these Felony Convictions and i think thats something that hes really dreading. Thing having to face brian. I want to play some of what the former president said today when asked if he was preparing for a debate with harris im not spending a lot of time on it. I think my whole life ive been preparing for a debate you can go in and you can have all sorts of sessions. I watched they probably go in as they work so hard for weeks and still locked himself into a lockdown. And then he developed lockjaw. He couldnt win the state you have to be real there. You cant Cram Knowledge into your head for 30 years of knowledge and one week. So, you know, theres a little debate prep but ive always done it more or less the same way and you have to know your subject. And i think i know my subject. I think i know it better than anybody its i mean, it is interesting his approach to debates. I mean, there have been some whove said, well, look, i you know, he prepares more than he says in that may be the case. But he definitely i mean, if you look at his debates over the years he says you have to be yourself and he, whether you like it or not he is that in these debates he shows himself, he shows who he is again, whether thats a good thing or not. Yeah. Listen with respect to the bates, i mean, you have to remember donald trump is very comfortable with the skin. Hes very comfortable taking risks that he has been in the camera for a heck of a long time. So lets as a very safe space for him. I mean, he is an effective communicator. Leases always felt he has been in these this campaigns best communicator. So its, its he he overperforms in debates from may traditional republican operative standpoint. Ill always, always nervous when he does these debates. I always felt that he didnt do as well as he should have done. And then you sort of look at the polling in a couple of days later after it stabilizes the turnout, he did. Okay. Its just hes just different at debates. I mean, he decimated hillary. He didnt do so well against biden. Hillary is exponentially stronger, more debater than than homeless Kamala Harris that to hear the Kamala Harris is an excellent communicator. I think thats a joke at this point. Shes literally a voting every possible Press Opportunity in existence. So she doesnt have to communicate her message to the people. So i mean, i think were ready for the bates. We want more what for someone who is a joke. I mean, its just simply seems to have the Trump Campaign freaked out and try and so, you know, sweat it out or sweating it out right now. But again, i hear your point about not doing doing interviews. She has not done a sit down formal sit down interview, and obviously, i think she said that they will do that by the end of this month well see about that nothing is scheduled by the way, until a couple of days. Yeah. Well, we shall see everyone stick around. Were gonna have more coming up next were station with former Trump National security adviser, hr mcmaster, including about todays solemn anniversary and how a shift in the former president s afghan and strategy in the words of mcmaster and his books, set the stage for the humiliating pullout that the Biden Administration executed in afghanistan later, what to make of jack smiths chances for reviving the classroom . By documents, case and the case hes making for it with the 11th Circuit Court of appeals have i got news for you is coming to cnn this fall pros and cons less pro, hosted by roy wood junior row with amber ruffin would likely in black, right. 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