Transcripts For CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240711 : compareme

Transcripts For CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240711

Didnt hear an apology. So no apology last night, he says. And certainly from what we heard today of her on the floor, none today. She spoke in the chamber and she didnt apologize. Well get to that in just a second. But first, before we go any further on her excuses and finger pointing we just want to pause for a second and just let you listen to her words and views that got her and all of us to this point. These are her words. Its her bigotry. And these are her Conspiracy Theories. Her words, her bigotry and her lies. Many americans are like blind sheep, just going through life not paying attention. There is an islamic invasion into our Government Offices right now. How do you get avid gun owners and people that support the Second Amendment to give up their guns . Maybe you accomplish that by performing a mass shooting into a crowd. You make them scared. You make them victims. And you change their mindset. The socalled plane that crashed into the pentagon. Its odd, theres never any evidence shown for a plane in the pentagon. Kennedy getting killed in the plane crash. Thats another one of those clinton murders. Right . Q is a patriot. We know that for sure. Again, i dont have any proof of this, but were talking about who is q. So im going to tell you what he says. Many in our government are actively worshiping satan. Or they call moloch. Q is saying that they participate in pedophilia and spirit cooking. We already saw there was an email, came out of the wikileaks emails where was it cheryl mulls . And she told Hillary Clinton in an email that she was going to sacrifice a chicken to moloch in her back yard. Saudi arabia, The Rothschilds and soros he says are the puppetmasters that fund this global evil. Theres a onceinalifetime opportunity to take this global cabal of satanworshiping pedophiles out. Shes also pushed the Conspiracy Theory that California Wildfires were started by space lasers controlled by The Rothschilds, a family name which has been invoked by antisemites for generations. The congresswoman has also endorsed the Conspiracy Theory that sandy hooks shooting was staged, agreeing with a facebook commentator who poeted none of the School Shootings were real or done by the ones who were supposedly arrested for them. By the way, that post is no longer available. Congresswoman greene also agreed with a now deleted claim that the Parkland High School shooting was a socalled false flag information. Now to her effort to rationalize or explain away some of that. On qanon heres what she said today. I stumbled across something, and this is at the end of 2017, called qanon. Well, these posts were mainly about this russian collusion information. A lot of it was some of what i would see on the news at night. And i got very interested in it. Later in 2018 when i started finding misinformation, lies, things that were not true in these qanon posts, i stopped believing it. That appears to be a lie. If in fact she had stopped believing by 2018, then why was she saying this in 2019 when she endorsed the qanon conspiracy about key officials just as Ruth Bader Ginsburg among them being replaced by body doubles . This woman has been grown over for how many years and all of a sudden shes walking straight upright like its a whole new person. Almost like a body double like Hillary Clinton. Yeah. Like a body double for Hillary Clinton. Its interesting. I do not believe that was ruth, no. I dont think so. That was in february 2019. She was still endorsing qanon Conspiracy Theories. In fact, as recent as december of last year a month after she was elected she was still on board, praising an article promoting The Cult In A Now Deleted December 4th tweet. That same month she told cnns ryan nobles this about q afon followers when asked to comment on House Speaker pelosis remarks about her ties to the cult. I think its unfair to criticize regular American People that just are looking things up on the internet. So any claim by the congresswoman that her dalliance with qanon was incidental, brief and more than two years ago is belied by her own statements and actions. She was a deep believer. In this statement today, again, On The House Floor at the seat of American Democracy she revealed an earlier explanation of her actions to also be a lie. Because if it werent for the facebook posts and comments that i liked in 2018 i wouldnt be standing here today and you couldnt point a finger and accuse me of anything wrong. Shes saying she liked a series of posts and comments on hateful topics. Not by the way that shes sorry for liking them. Only that her liking them got her in trouble. At any rate, she says she liked them. Except just last week she was trying to suggest she didnt really like them, that she wasnt really responsible. Listen to how much work the passive voice is doing in this tweet. Over the years ive had teams of people manage my pages. Many posts have been liked. Many posts have been shared. Some did not represent my views, especially the ones that cnn is about to spread across the internet. That was last week. Her saying many posts have been liked, many posts have been shared. By whom . By her . By her teams of people . She isnt exactly a head of state. How many teams of people have been tweeting for her . Why would she have anyone do that for her . In any case, her hiding from accountability behind the passive voice and blame sh shift,ing, it didnt reach its apex there, it was just a warmup for this masterpiece today. Because i was upset about things and didnt trust the government really because the people here werent doing the things that i thought they should be doing for us, the things that i just told you i cared about. And i want you to know a lot of americans dont trust our government. And thats sad. The problem with that is, though, is i was allowed to believe things that werent true and i would ask questions about them and talk about them. And that is absolutely what i regret. Didnt republicans used to say they were the party of personal responsibility . I mean, did you get what she just said . Shes saying she didnt trust the government, like a lot of people, and the problem with that is she was allowed to believe things that werent true and talk about them. So its the governments fault that she was allowed to believe things that werent true . I mean, she could have just said, you know what, i fell for a hoax, i believed all this stuff that was antisemitic and it wasnt true and im sorry, and ive changed my mind. But she didnt say that. She said shes blaming she was allowed to do this. As if if someone didnt step in and stop us we would all rink drink up hateful antisemitic Conspiracy Theories like mothers milk. The congresswoman might not know it but most people have more decency than that and most people own up to their mistakes. But she didnt. And you know why . Because shes making money hand over fist right now. From people who believe all the things that she believed and seems like still believes. The antisemitism, the qanon conspiracy hoaxers, the 9 11 deniers. She wont renounce the specific things she has claimed in the past because she wants the support of those people still. Even when she was afraid of being taken off her committees, which is what ultimately has now happened, she said okay, fine, in an interview with the examiner yesterday, she said okay, fine, that will give me more time to do the things that are important to me, fundraise. And shes been fundraising off this for weeks now. She could have clearly spelled out all the absurd beliefs of qanon today. But she didnt. She could have pointed out the antisemitism at the heart of some of her past statements and apologized for that. She didnt. She could have said today of course a plane full of our fellow citizens was flown into the pentagon and that was a horror. But did she say that . No. She spoke about 9 11 broadly. I also want to tell you 9 11 absolutely happened. I remember that day crying all day long watching it on the news. And its a tragedy for anyone to say it didnt happen. And so that i definitely want to tell you, i do not believe that its fake. Okay. Shes saying 9 11 happened. And she cried all day. She doesnt believe that 9 11 is fake. But even 9 11 deniers admit 9 11 happened. They just believe it was an inside job, that there werent planes, that these things were blown up from the inside, it was a plot, conspiracy. Whatever crazy notion they have. They believe an explosion occurred at the pentagon but believe it wasnt a plane hijacked by terrorists, a plane full of men, women, and children. Thats what Marjorie Taylor greene herself has said. The socalled plane that crashed into the pentagon. Its odd, theres never any evidence shown for a plane in the pentagon. So despite saying 9 11 absolutely happened, she hasnt taken that Plane Conspiracy Hoax back. And you know what else we didnt hear from her today . Remorse. At all. She expressed no remorse for the anguish that she inflicted in perpetuating such an ugly lie about a trauma that she herself claims to have cried all day over. She felt remorse that shed been allowed to believe things that werent true. Instead in her very next breath she lashed out at the media, at socalled cancel culture, then having not accepted any responsibility for anything she said the congresswoman from georgia tried to shove it all down the memory hole. These were words of the past, and these things do not represent me. They do not represent my district. And they do not represent my values. These are words of the past. These things do not represent me. These arent the droids youre looking for. I mean, think of this. Think of the possibilities. Your honor, when i told that bank clerk to hand over the money, those were words of my past. These things do not represent me. Or maybe gee, mr. Smithers, when i endorsed that racist post by the local kkk, that was before i even thought of applying for a job here. They were words of the past and these things do not represent me. You might not buy it. The judge might not buy it. But colorado Congressman Ken Buck seems to. I think a number of these statements that she made and in light on social media were inappropriate. She has apologized over and over again for those. And i think its clear that she is a flreshman and those statements were made before she came into congress. They were made three years ago. Two years ago. You know, before she realized she might actually be able to win a seat in congress, before she hired pr people and consultants who told her youve got to clean up the crazy, just a bit. You still need money from the crazies so dont clean up too much but youve got to clean up just a little bit. You just need to be remorseful enough so your fellow republicans can welcome you into the fold. Well, they have. The congresswomans not apologized over and over again, as mr. Buck said. She didnt last night, according to congressman kinzinger. And as youve seen, she didnt today. She took no true responsibility for anything. And thats just the way things go now. Nobody apologizes for things. Not politicians, it seems. Certainly not the followers of the former president. Which seems to be okay with Republican Leaders in the house who voted not to discipline her today and said this after declining to discipline her last night. Its just an example, this Republican Partys a very big tent. Everyones invited in. So big tent for the party, or big top. Perspective now from a former ringmaster, Anthony Scare Mutuali who served briefly as Communications Director in the trump white house. Good to have you here. Marjorie taylor greene, she may be gone from her house committees. It just seems like such a giving up of responsibility by Republican Leadership. I dont know if they wanted im sure a bunch of them wanted the democrats to vote her out because not only does it get her off those committees but it also then allows them to just hammer the democrats for doing an unprecedented move that they can say is just incredibly partisan and totally unprecedented. Thats probably the game theory that theyre working off of, anderson. But the tragedy for the Republican Party is that theyve accepted all of this and theyve accepted this fear basis. This is a remnant and an afterglow of President Trump. So theyre allowing the trumpism, if you will, that sort of radioactivity to pervade posttrump. And its very bad for them because long term youve got a very small group of crazy and you have a very large group of normal people. So what will happen is the normal people will say no mas to the crazy, theyll develop a center right party, split the party in two pieces, and then the republicans will be in the minority for a generation. So thats where things are going right now. And im just surprised at these guys because they know better. Kevin mccarthy knows better. He knows the path that hes on right now. Hes often subsumed with his own ambition. So all of that comes with a lack of morality and a lack of principles. But he actually does know better. If somebody intervenes on his behalf or throws watt kerr on him and says what are you doing exactly, go back to your principles, go back to the core constituency of the Republican Party and shed this nonsense. So this is going to end in a tragedy for the Republican Party. But the good news is not a tragedy for the American People because the American People, the majority of them have caught on, anderson. You tweeted earlier today, i saw, you said the gop knows that trump sold them down a rathole. Stand up and speak the truth now. Move away from the darkness and to something more principled. I guess what evidence do you have that republicans are going to do that . I mean, i know you said this is going to be a longterm issue now for a while, for generations youre talking about divisions in the Republican Party. Only 11 House Republicans were willing to go on the record against Marjorie Taylor greene. 61 voted by Secret Ballot against liz cheney as conference chair last night because she voted her conscience to impeach trump. And mccarthy, i mean, what i dont understand, anthony, is the republicans had the opportunity here with the impeachment to finally rid themselves of the former president s influence over them for the next four years and they it seemed like there was a moment the night of the insurrection where a couple people were kind of sending up Trial Balloons and then they all just kind of decided you know what, thats not where the base is and we need their support. Well, first of all, i just want to say i dont have any evidence of that. Thats a statement that im making of what is i believe the right thing to do and the morally principled thing to do. But listen, i dont have evidence of that and i think its actually tragic that were in a situation right now where you have this level of acuity in terms of the leadership. Yeah, theyre following the money. Theyre fearbased. Theyre fearful of President Trump. And the rise of trumpism primarying them. My message to them, if you stood on principle the way mitt romney has or a few others, kinzinger is an example, or representative cheney, youre going to be forever known as somebody that was capable of doing that. Its a courageous thing and its a brave thing. But what these guys are doing right now is political expediency. Its personal power preservation. And its blind ambition. And so listen, the great news about it is shows like yours and others are showing this so transparently to the American People that you know, the majority of the American People know this. So the Republican Party is going to end up on the current course splitting. There will be a centerright party formed by very smart responsible people that want to restore principle and want to figure out a way to get along and bridge a compromise with the democrats. And the republicans will be fighting it out for qanon supporters and people that are preying on each other, on their fear and on the nastiness of all of this mend aacious conspiracy. Does the lack of specific contrition by this congresswoman today surprise you at all . She said she has regret and is a sinner but, you know, seemed more interested in fomenting Conspiracy Theories about the media taking her words out of context. Which would be laughable if her comments werent so often on tape and frankly just antisemitic at times and just sick. Well, listen, shes a disciple of President Trump. So he doubles and triples down on the lies. 33,000, 34,000 lies. Sovg it doesnt surprise me that shes doing that. I have to tell you this, though. I am surprised at certain people in the Republican Leadership. You know, Kevin Mccarthy once said to me at a lunch that washington needs more thermostats, anderson, we have too many thermometers that are just sensing the temperature and then theyre expressing that temperature back to the people. But what a thermostat does is you set the coordinates and then you guide people to

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