Of them. Yes, there are labour donors and of them. Yes, there are labour donors and dresses of them. Yes, there are labour donors and dresses for of them. Yes, there are labour donors and dresses for lady i donors and dresses for lady starmer, there the uefa story, weighing in about an independent regulator for football, the missiles going into russia story. Football, the missiles going into russia story. There is a horrible. Into russia story. There is a horrible, tragic into russia story. There is a horrible, tragic Story Into Russia story. There is a horrible, tragic story this i horrible, tragic story this morning, eight confirmed deaths already from a migrant crossing across the Channel. 50 already from a migrant crossing across the Channel. Across the Channel. So were auoin across the Channel. So were going to across the Channel. So were going to try across the Channel. So were going to try to across the Channel. So were going to try to tackle across the Channel. So were going to try to tackle the across the Channel. So were i going to try to tackle the news in this episode of newscast, what the guests have said about them and we will be jOined By Nick watt. Them and we will be Oined By Nick want nick watt. Hello, Its laura in the studio nick watt. Hello, Its laura in the studio. Its nick watt. Hello, Its laura in the studio. Its paddy nick watt. Hello, Its laura in the studio. Its paddy in nick watt. Hello, Its laura in the studio. Its paddy in the l the studio. Its paddy in the studio. And the studio. Its paddy in the studio. And nick the studio. Its paddy in the studio. And nick watt. The studio. Its paddy in the l studio. And nick watt. None the studio. Its paddy in the studio. And nick watt. None of these easy studio. And nick watt. None of these easy things studio. And nick watt. None of these easy things for studio. And nick watt. None of these easy things for the these easy things for the government. Lets start wIth the news this morning. As many as eight people have been confirmed trying to cross the Channel from france to the South Coast of england. The french police have announced that this morning. We asked the polIticians at the studio this morning, the Foreign Secretary David Lambie expressed Sadness And Concern but the timing is interesting because Keir Starmer is going to Italy tomorrow to talk to george Georgia Meloni has taken a hard approach to immigration and the government seem open to following some of her example. Yes, the Prime Minister had a long yes, the Prime Minister had a long conversation wIth Georgia Meloni long conversation wIth Georgia Meloni at the summIt he hosted, he inherIted It from Rishi Sunak he inherIted It from Rishi Sunak and he hosted the meeting at Blenheim Palace and had a long at Blenheim Palace and had a long chat wIth Georgia Meloni and hes long chat wIth Georgia Meloni and hes very interested in her ideas. And hes very interested in her ideas, which have led to a reduction in what is now called Irregular Reduction in what is now called irregular migration across the medIterranean to Italy, thats based medIterranean to Italy, thats based on medIterranean to Italy, thats based on two big things, going upstream and going downstream. Upstream upstream and going downstream. Upstream is you go to the countries where the migrants are coming from which in the case are coming from which in the case of are coming from which in the case of Italy is libya and tunisia. Case of Italy is libya and tunisia, and you have deals wIth tunisia, and you have deals wIth them which involves a lot of money wIth them which involves a lot of money to reduce the incentive for people to come to Italy. Incentive for people to come to Italy. That incentive for people to come to Italy, that seems to be successful. The downstream element successful. The downstream element is that when migrants come element is that when migrants come to element is that when migrants come to your country, come to Italy, come to your country, come to Italy, you come to your country, come to Italy, you then process them elsewhere and so whats happening wIth Italy is they are being processed in Albania And Keir are being processed in albania and Keir Starmer is interested in that and Keir Starmer is interested in that. That is different to the in that. That is different to the rwanda scheme, your Asylum Application is processed in albania. Application is processed in albania, if you are successful, you go albania, if you are successful, you go to albania, if you are successful, you go to Italy, if you are unsuccessful, you go home. Windef unsuccessful, you go home. Winder was a final destiNation, no processing, you there rwanda no processing, you there rwanda was a final destiNation i thought there was ammunItion there for crItics of the Labour Government and there is the discussion of the ongoing tightening of Border Controls in germany which gives us a sense of a continental problem being addressed by different countries at the same time. Its something the former government used to have when they were crIticised over rwanda, the use to see Its not just us doing this, other people are doing similar things. No other country is saying, you arrive, if you get here, you just going to be somewhere else and that is It, but Its true there is definItely a trend of European Leaders taking tougher approaches because of what is going on, and this is what the Foreign Secretary said when we asked him if the government was considering the model. Thea;t considering the model. They have a comprehensive considering the model. 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Just wIth albania but upstream schemes just wIth albania but upstream schemes wIth just wIth albania but upstream schemes wIth syria just wIth albania but upstream schemes wIth syria and just wIth albania but upstream schemes wIth Syria And Libya i just wIth albania but upstream i schemes wIth Syria And Libya as welt schemes wIth Syria And Libya as well. ,.. Schemes wIth Syria And Libya as well. ,... well. Lets turn away from that to the question well. Lets turn away from that to the question of well. Lets turn away from that to the question of will well. Lets turn away from that to the question of Will Western Supplied missiles made into russia, fired from ukraine . On radio four, we had many guests this morning tell us that if you supply weaponry, It will end up being used and this is of great concern to newscasters, this escalation, the meeting between the prime Minister And President in washington gave no public answer yet the newspapers and airwaves are filled wIth saying someone is going to have to answer this very soon. It someone is going to have to answer this very soon. It feels that No Final answer this very soon. It feels that No Final Decision Answer this very soon. It feels that No Final decision has answer this very soon. It feels| that No Final decision has been made that No Final decision has been made i that No Final decision has been made. I think there was hope on the uk made. I think there was hope on the Uk Side they will get the agreement from the WhIte House. That hasnt happened but Its not a that hasnt happened but Its not a definItive no. We have now not a definItive no. We have now moved to the Un General Assembly in New York at The End of september. Keirstarmer assembly in New York at The End of september. Keir starmer will be there. Of september. Keir starmer will be there, Joe Biden will be there be there, Joe Biden will be there and Volodymyr Zelensky will He There and Volodymyr Zelensky will be there, where he will be outlining will be there, where he will be outlining his plan for how this War Ends outlining his plan for how this War Ends and It sounds like Joe Biden War Ends and It sounds like Joe Biden wants to hear from President Zelensky but i think Its really important to say, what Its really important to say, what are Its really important to say, what are these Storm Shadow missiles what are these Storm Shadow missiles intending to do if ukraine missiles intending to do if ukraine is allowed to fire them into russia . Are they designed to ensure into russia . Are they designed to ensure ukraine wins this war . To ensure ukraine wins this war . That to ensure ukraine wins this war . That would be great but Nobody War . That would be great but nobody is war . That would be great but nobody is saying thats going to happen. Are they designed to tilt the to happen. Are they designed to tilt the balance of this war . That tilt the balance of this war . That would be great but thats not going to happen. They are designed not going to happen. They are designed to put intense pressure on President Putin who is facing pressure on President Putin who is facing very, very strong pressure is facing very, very strong pressure to strengthen president Zelenskys Hand if we move president Zelenskys Hand if we move towards some sort of negotiations to bring an end to this war~ negotiations to bring an end to this war.. this war. The Foreign Secretary answered this war. The Foreign Secretary answered what this war. The Foreign Secretary answered what sounds this war. 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The sense here and across the atlantic in government is that they need to understand the impact of these missiles if they were used in that way, while polItical and diplomatic wheels turn slowly but every day there is loss of life on the and russian sides, and General Mccall was alluding to the sense that the west is doing enough to allow ukraine to keep fighting but not to win this war and therefore It goes on, Its a stalemate, and when western leaders say they can have everything they need to win, thats actually not what the evidence tells us, thats not the pattern of how this has developed in the last couple of years. Developed in the last couple of ears. ~.. years. Piers morgan said there is a very simple years. Piers morgan said there is a very simple question, years. Piers morgan said there is a very simple question, whoj is a very simple question, who do you is a very simple question, who do you want to win this war . Or who do you want to win this war . Or who do do you want to win this war . Or who do not do you want to win this war . Or who do not want to lose this war . Who do not want to lose this war . It who do not want to lose this war . If The View in the west is that war . If The View in the west is that they war . If The View in the west is that they want ukraine to win this war. That they want ukraine to win this war, but thats probably not going to happen but they would not going to happen but they would like ukraine is not to lose, would like ukraine is not to lose, you would like ukraine is not to lose, you need to give them what lose, you need to give them what they need, but there is immense what they need, but there is immense caution because of the potentially escalator a nature of allowing these sorts of weapons and i think the components, the intelligence required components, the intelligence required for these weapons is at a required for these weapons is at a nato required for these weapons is at a Nato Level and so Its not that at a Nato Level and so Its not that you at a Nato Level and so Its not that you need everybody in the nato that you need everybody in the nato agreeing but clearly president biden will be very, very president biden will be very, very concerned about what germany thinks and germany is getting germany thinks and germany is getting very, very nervous because getting very, very nervous because Olaf Scholz is facing intense because Olaf Scholz is facing intense polItical pressure on his hard intense polItical pressure on his hard right and on his far left, his hard right and on his far left, and his hard right and on his far left, and the one thing that those left, and the one thing that those two polItical forces on eIther those two polItical forces on eIther side of the spectrum have eIther side of the spectrum have in eIther side of the spectrum have in