Transcripts For BBCNEWS Afternoon Live 20240713 : comparemel

Transcripts For BBCNEWS Afternoon Live 20240713

And ask again for the woman involved in the crash that killed their son to return to the uk. Doctors in italy who are caring for a seriously brain damaged girl from london say they hope that eventually she will be able to return home and be cared for by her family. The government takes the First Step Towards potentially stripping the north of englands main train operator of its franchise. Coming up on afternoon live all the sport with sarah mulkerins. I will have more on at the events from bulgaria on monday night were buggy and police have arrested six fa ns buggy and police have arrested six fans following up that racist abuse of english players. Thanks, sarah. Chris fawkes has all the weather. Still no sign of any prolonged dry weather. Showers are the key word over the next few days, plenty of those. I will bring you the feel update later on. This thanks, chris. Also coming up the camera chain jessops plans to call in administrators. Good aftermoon and welcome to bbc news, live from westminster, as negotiators in brussels try to secure agreement on a brexit deal in time for an eu summit tomorrow. Talks resumed early this morning, but the eus chief brexit negotiator, Michel Barnier, has spoken of a number of significant issues Still Standing in the way and mps are now working against the clock, as any agreement must be reached today. It had been reported the Democratic Unionist Party was ready to accept new proposals but its leader has described the claims as nonsense. Both the eu and the government say progress is being made but government sources say the chances are shrinking. From brussels, our europe correspondent adam fleming the uks negotiators arriving for talks this morning, talks which havent broken down but which arent reaching a conclusion yet either. Those discussions are ongoing as we speak and we are absolutely committed to securing a deal. We think that is in the interests of both sides. Late last night, the two sides burnt the midnight oil more specifically, the 1 30am oil. The main Sticking Points, the same as ever. What customs checks there could be on the island of ireland, the role of the stormont assembly, the shape of the future trade agreement. Talks have been constructive but there are still remain a number of significant issues to resolve. The eu chief negotiator, Michel Barnier, will spend much of today updating his bosses. This morning, it was the European Commission, this afternoon diplomats from the other eu countries, who are sticking to their red lines. As the French Foreign minister explained, those are protecting the Single Market and the irish border, and safeguards in case the uk tries to become a ruthless economic rival. I spoke to the Prime Minister by phone this morning and ive been in contact as well with the European Commission and i do think we are making progress but there are issues yet to be resolved and hopefully that can be done today, allowing us to ratify the agreement at the European Council tomorrow. Sources in brussels say the Political Action isnt really here, its in london where, they say, the government needs to make some choices about what its going to do and work out if enough mps will vote for a revised deal, if there even is one. And we can talk to adam now. Is their one, do we know . No, we dont, the first clues we will have from the side about the state of any revised brexit deal, if it exists and what shape it is in, will be Michel Barniers brief two 27 other Member States about the latest. That meeting was meant to happening right now, it has been shifted back to 5pm brussels time, four oclock what you are, so well have to wait a little while for that. It feels like, at the moment, the Sticking Points are sort of shifting a little bit, and that we are used to talking about the customs checks on the island of ireland. Now, the issue is the consent mechanism for the stormont assembly, and to the people of Northern Ireland to give the consent of these arrangements in the future. That seems to be coming to the fore, but really conflicting reports about how i resolved that issue is. Then there is the issue of the level Playing Field, the jargon for what sort of commitments does the eur squad from britain, and what commitments britain is prepared to make in terms of the future economic relationship, how much competition there is between a uk that has left there is between a uk that has left the eu and the eu. It feels like a slight change of emphasis. People are talking about the sequencing of how this will work, for example, is it now too late for leaders to approve a fully revised deal at a summit on thursday . It also goes on into friday, by the way. There is also talk of, do you ask from the eu side for a subtle upfront about from westminster about the sort of deals they would accept or the way forward . They would accept or the way forward . Does that suggest that they might be prepared to have an emergency summit sometime next week if there is a vote in favour here . There has been talk of an emergency summit perhaps on the 27th, 28, 20 9th of october summit perhaps on the 27th, 28, 20 9th of 0ctoberfor quite summit perhaps on the 27th, 28, 20 9th of october for quite a couple of weeks here now. I dont think the speculation for that has gone up or down, i think it is a present bit of gossip on the sidelines. The fact is the eu has not had a properformal discussion about how it will handle brexit at the summit, we do not even know if brexit will be discussed on thursday or friday, or both days. There are no draft conclusions either, which is the communique that leaders will be asked to sign up, because they just do leaders will be asked to sign up, because theyjust do not have enough fa cts because theyjust do not have enough facts and front of him to decide how to handle this when the leaders gathered. The leaders are gathering tomorrow, this is not a long way in the future, the summit will have started by this time tomorrow. People are a little bit nonplussed about how they will actually handle it all. Interesting, leo varadkar speaking today, there does seem to bea speaking today, there does seem to be a total change in at the irish perspective since that meeting with borisjohnson. It perspective since that meeting with Boris Johnson. It now perspective since that meeting with borisjohnson. It now appears that the french and germans are saying, hang ona the french and germans are saying, hang on a minute, they are worried about that level Playing Field issue . The Irish Government are now totally in favour of getting a deal done, they will not be in favour if it compromises their red lines or jeopardises the Peace Process or causes problems on the border, they will not go gung ho for a deal at any will not go gung ho for a deal at a ny cost. Will not go gung ho for a deal at any cost. That, combined with Boris Johnson was my insistence that he wa nts a johnson was my insistence that he wants a deal, is what has injected a new momentum into the process. What happens now is what happens as a revised deal reaches fruition, the negotiating team for the eu then it is that shopping that deal around the other 27 states, the countries that will have to sign it off. We have seen it time and time again, when you get to the climate of the negotiations, the Member States start taking away more detailed interest in what is going on, and they raise their own national interest, whether it is france and belgium saying that this level Playing Field stuff is important to them. I guarantee that someone will raise concerns about fishing, that a lwa ys raise concerns about fishing, that always happens at this stage for slip. Yesterday, we had from germany, the concern they were raising was about the time frame how long will it take to get this all translated, scrubbed about the lawyers for any legal problems . German officials suggesting there might be another two months needed, suggesting that their concern is about being bounced into something too quickly. 0ur chief Political Correspondent vicki young is in downing street. We could be in for us sort of dating ping pong, were we watch them now, they may watch us on saturday of this vote goes ahead, then they respond to that . It is possible. I think the idea of an indicative type late on saturday is just quite risky for borisjohnson, late on saturday is just quite risky for Boris Johnson, he late on saturday is just quite risky for borisjohnson, he could have the outline of a deal. But if youre a labourmp outline of a deal. But if youre a labour mp considering backing the government, ijust dont labour mp considering backing the government, i just dont think they are going to go for it, at the point where they have not seen the written down political text, the legal text, they havent seen that. They want to know about the future relationship, really, it sums up the problem is that you have got, there are those in the tory party who never voted for theresa mays deal, they want and which was a future relationship with the eu. The idea of this level Playing Field is a problem for them. If you think that out of the political declaration, you then have a problem because some labour mps wa nt a problem because some labour mps want that in there, they wont vote for it if it isnt in there. It is at that same old problem as you gain some doubts on one side you little mitts on the other. Then, the issue of the dup, virtually camped inside downing street for the last couple of days, having hours of talk with the Prime Minister. We are told that it has come down to the idea of consent, that is what he makes the big difference between the deal they we re big difference between the deal they were being offered by theresa may. Is there a way that the communities in Northern Ireland can say, we do not want to be in this any longer. There was talk of a referendum, the Unionist Community do not like that at all. All the get back to some is kinda position where they have some kinda position where they have some kind of mechanism whereby the communities can have a say . That is what i think the hold up is at the moment, i think the dup could well be back inside downing street later on today. In the meantime, the cabinet will be arriving, meeting at 2 30pm. I have detected some irritation amongst cabinet ministers because they really are in the dark about what he is going on in brussels with these negotiations. This may potentially be the first chance to find out exactly what is going on with negotiation. Presumably, Boris Johnson does going on with negotiation. Presumably, borisjohnson does not know either . I would think that he is being told what is going on, i would imagine. He is obviously trying to square things back here, making sure that if there is a deal it can get through parliament. The question about the saturday setting, we are still getting indications thatis we are still getting indications that is likely to go ahead. If a deal has been signed off by friday, you can see how you could have that, and then mps being asked to vote in and then mps being asked to vote in a meaningful doubt on any Withdrawal Agreement. If there is no deal signed off in time, what happens then, what is the point of Parliament Setting . Unless it is may be for porous johnson Parliament Setting . Unless it is may be for porousjohnson to say to parliament, come on then, lets vote for no deal. Labour can then say, youre just blocking brexit. For no deal. Labour can then say, yourejust blocking brexit. I for no deal. Labour can then say, youre just blocking brexit. I think theissues youre just blocking brexit. I think the issues come, if there is no deal signed off on friday and her comic talks are still going on into next week, then what happens . This is what gets interesting with the so called benn act, that is the thing that kicks in on the 19th of 0ctober, saturday, if there is no deal signed off and parliament does not vote for a no deal brexit, borisjohnson has to ask for a delay to brexit, by law, that extension to article 50. That is the main thing on saturday there could be happening. The brexit secretary saying today that he will send a letter, but if talks are going on, the eu may say, we have got the letter, we will consider the extension at some point but not yet because we still have more time to hold negotiations. That could be where we end up on saturday. But i have to say, nobody knows for sure what is going on or what is going on. Things may become clear once the cabinet has been brief. We do know that we keep passing through many deadlines, we keep talking about crunch days, today is another one. Do you have a sense that we are near the end of something . You get the impression from downing street that they are willing, for another few hours at least today, to keep this going. It is worth saying that there isa going. It is worth saying that there is a difference between a deal being signed off at this eu summit tomorrow or the next day, and then talks finishing altogether. It is not necessarily one or the other. You could end up in a situation where a new deal has not been nailed down on time but talks will continue into the next few days. Both sides will be reluctant to away from the table, it is clear that the site do wa nt table, it is clear that the site do want a deal. Of course, it is how much of a concession is either side willing to make . The dup, as we know, crucial in all of this, not just because they are the ones that have been propping up the tory government, the numbers do not matter at the moment since Boris Johnson is sort of a majority anyway. It is about the unique position of Northern Ireland and ireland, the history of those countries, what they are worried about. That is why it is so important, so many people, people like tony blair and john major warning about the consequences of brexit on the good friday agreement, thatis brexit on the good friday agreement, that is still what is really at the heart of all of this. With me now is drew hendry, the Scottish Nationalist Party mp for inverness, nairn, badenoch and strathspey. 0ne one thing that we do now, it does seem one thing that we do now, it does seem clear, is that borisjohnson wa nts a seem clear, is that borisjohnson wants a deal . I think once he wants to do is to get anything over the line before the 31st of october, like theresa may, he has put down a possible red wine. We see him now concocting a deal, which seems even worse than the one that was comprehensively rejected by theresa may, it is not something that we are going to support. If we are all honest, we have no idea what concessions are being given by either side. Im wondering what your red lines would be . Yourejust going to say no to whatever comes out, arent you . We have been very clear since the beginning of this process that leaving the eu is not a good dealfor process that leaving the eu is not a good deal for scotland, the process that leaving the eu is not a good dealfor scotland, the new version of brexit is good for scottish economy, society new version no version. Scottish economy, society new version no version. If there is a deal, there is no way on earth you will work for it on a saturday . There will be massive economic harm done to scotland by any version of the deal done by borisjohnson brought back to parliament. There are no circumstances where we can vote to impose that, particularly when the scottish people made their position very clear, 62 voted to remain in the eu. That view of the scottish people, all the way through parliament, has been ignored by the westminster process here, which is a broken one, and we will not support that. You know better than i where we are all here, theories on the front the referendum, scotland is pa rt front the referendum, scotland is part of the uk, we are where we are. Im wondering, on saturday, is there any way that you would consider a change . The Scottish Government put forward a compromise deal to the uk government that started this process , government that started this process, that was completely ignored. Fundamentally, we need to stay in the Single Market and customs union, those are the only things that will satisfy the needs of scotland. We have just been listening to the debate on immigration and parliament layer, which deceptively carried through the fence on ratio that is set to devastate economies in scotland, especially at the highlands, where we are already facing difficulties with people feeling unwelcome or not being able to start our services and industries. It is a terrible situation for us to be in, we do not wa nt to situation for us to be in, we do not want to be part of it, we want to make sure we have a for scotland in the future, which probably means waiting for independence. At the moment, the choice is a deal or no deal, of those two, which one would you prefer . Nodeal is catastrophic, the deal that is being proposed is almost as catastrophic. As like a choice between being hit bya as like a choice between being hit by a Freight Train or a bus, we do not want either. If that is its scenario where there is no deal, there is legislation in place that should be enacted on monday to ask foran should be enacted on monday to ask for an extension. At that point, the sensible thing to do would be to ta ke sensible thing to do would be to take this back to the people in a general election, that is what should be happenin

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