Transcripts For BBCNEWS BBC News At Five 20171208 : comparem

Transcripts For BBCNEWS BBC News At Five 20171208

In many parts of the country, causing power cuts, School Closures and travel disruption. And, stronger is a new film about the aftermath of the Boston Marathon bombings well hear Mark Kermodes thoughts about this, and the rest of the weeks top overnight are being scrutinised at hemefianefabzeaeb the deal will allow the negotiations to move to the next crucial stage on trade and transition. Sean claude young, commission, sean claude young, to ina great g . Fl; elf of eu l if. Citizens Rights and t ;25 t ege 2 eu and that other a madman consider a if i overjuice and pastries the two sides agreed a 15 page list of promises. David davis face, proof that its taken an exhausting series of talks to get the eu to say this. The commission has just formally decided to recommend to the European Council that sufficient progress has now been made on the terms of the divorce. What is the biggest compromise the other side has made to get you to this point today . This was a question of coming together and working together for a report and working together for a report and agreement in the best interests of all sides. Heres what those negotiators have actually negotiated. To guarantee the rights of eu citizens staying in the uk, the European Court ofjustice will still have a role for eight years after brexit although it might affect a handful of cases. The uk has finalised an agreement in principle about its financial obligations, that could end up being up obligations, that could end up being up to £39 billion according to officials. Both sides restated in commitment are no hard border on the island of ireland. Northern irish politicians will get a say on any proposals that could affect Northern Irelands relationship with the rest of the uk. Then the Prime Minister dashed off to see the man who will chair the dashed off to see the man who will chairthe summit of dashed off to see the man who will chair the summit of eu leaders next week. His message to progress, yes, but not time to start celebrating. Lets remember the most difficult challenge is still ahead. We all know that breaking up is hard, but breaking up and building a new relation is much harder. In other words, the eus chief negotiator and now is to haggle over a transition period and a possible trade deal. Are you going to be celebrating . Crack open the champagne . Still more work to do, 0k. And roughly a year to get it all done. Adam fleming, bbc news, brussels. It is certainly clear that one of the centres of satisfaction coming from the brussels side of the fenceis coming from the brussels side of the fence is the way in which they maintained a sense of unity, mostly for the irish republic, in making sure that what one member state needed ultimately they got in this deal. Recognition too i think its fairto deal. Recognition too i think its fair to say that as we move onto the next phase and look at other issues in greater detail, maintaining that sense of unity will only get tougher. You are watching bbc news. Theresa may heralded the deal as hard won and in everybodys interests. Its also being seen as politically crucial for her and her negotiating team. The senior cabinet Brexiteer Michael gove described it as a significant personal political achievement for the Prime Minister. The shadow brexit secretary, labours keir starmer, welcomed the fact that talks can now move on but stressed this point should have been reached weeks ago. Chris mason reports now on the political reaction to todays agreement. This is what getting a brexit deal looks like. It is for 30 am at a military airfield just outside london. In brussels the Prime Minister was striding towards an agreement. But any negotiation about anything involves compromise, and this is no different. So while both of them were wearing smiles and exchanging handshakes this morning at about the time many of us were crawling out of bed, what were the big political hitters over here making of it . This agreement is a significant political achievement for the Prime Minister. It helps to guarantee the rights of eu citizens in the uk. It will be uk courts that safeguard those rights. Of course, they will have regard for eu law and in a limited number of cases for a limited period of time, they can if they wish to, if theres a point of law that is ambiguous, go to the European Court ofjustice for help to resolve the issue. But this is a time limited and very specific exception, and it is uk courts in the driving seat. Im very pleased to see this deal. The Prime Minister has put a great deal of personal effort into it, including staying up all night to finalise it. And it is clear that it is also being broadly welcomed by our eu partners, even if many of them remain profoundly upset that we are leaving the eu. So there you saw both sides of the conservative divide rowing in behind the Prime Minister. That is one big reason why, if you tilt your ear towards the nearest window, you can probably hear the huge sighs of relief coming from downing street. But remember, this isjust the beginning of this negotiating process. Whats to come, the discussion about the future relationship with the eu, will be even more complicated, in all likelihood. That is why opposition parties are keeping up the pressure on the Prime Minister. The referendum took place in 2016, we are right at the end of 2017 and this is the first time weve had any signs of movement that we can go on to the second phase. We want tariff free access to europe because a great many jobs tariff free access to europe because a great manyjobs on both sides of the channel rely on the supply chain in europe to britain and likewise from britain into europe. We want to maintain those jobs. Nobody who voted in the referendum voted to lose theirjobs. A few conservative mps privately are grumbling about the deal. They see it as a compromise too far. This man, who you might recognise, agrees with them. Amazing, isnt it . The british Prime Minister flies through the middle of the night to meet unelected bureaucrats who pat her on the head, and say you have met all of our demands, we can move on to the next stage. Its a humiliation. As the Prime Minister returned home, she can chalk up a success. The progress she hoped for has been made. But it merely marks the end of a beginning of a negotiation far, farfrom done. Chris mason, bbc news, at westminster. 0ur Political Correspondent Eleanor Garnier is in westminster for us, whats the reaction been to this deal . I suppose its a sign of how tough things have been that you can most feel the relief this morning. Thats right and feel the relief this morning. Thats rightandi feel the relief this morning. Thats right and i think we should be in no doubt that if theresa may had not managed to get this deal done she would have been in deep political trouble. Think back to the beginning of the week when she had gone to brussels with the hope of signing this off and the dup ended up pulling the plug on the whole thing. It was extremely humiliating, it led toa it was extremely humiliating, it led to a week of intense negotiations to get everything sorted. We even heard the negotiators over their congratulating theresa may saying it was a personal success for her. On the whole there has been a general welcoming on this ability to move on to phase two of the talks. Privately there are some tory brexiteers not happy about the size of the divorce bill or the role of the European Court ofjustice bill or the role of the European Court of justice and bill or the role of the European Court ofjustice and there has been some compromise. If you look at the money back in the day when we were talking about what kind of bill it might be, some brexiteers were saying we shouldnt pay a penny. The fa ct we saying we shouldnt pay a penny. The fact we are paying up to £39 billion isa fact we are paying up to £39 billion is a compromise but i think they are able to live with that as long as the uk gets the free trade deal they want, which will be part of the negotiations in phase two. As for those on the remain side of the arguments, they are happy we have not walked away without a deal. We should remember nothing is agreed with these brexit negotiations until everything is agreed. To that extent, it means if things run into trouble in phase two of the talks, it means what was agreed in phase one could potentially unravel. Neither side is aiming for that but it shows how complex and difficult these talks are and also how the ha rd est pa rt these talks are and also how the hardest part is still to come. Yes, lets discuss that a little bit now. Thank you. Lets assess what opposition politicians are making of this agreement today. Chuka umunna is at westminster tonight. Are you feeling positive, upbeat, relieved . Tonight. Are you feeling positive, upbeat, relieved . I certainly think its a good thing we are moving onto the second phase of these brexit negotiations we know they will be far more difficult than the first. The issues range from trade but also to security and defence, other issues like that, thats what now will be discussed in addition to the transition period which has been talked about, or implementation as the Prime Minister calls it. I am pleased but i think there are severe competence issues around the way the government has handled this. We are 18 months into the process and not very far forward, but increasingly as we go on lucy brexit in the terms it was sold to your viewers is simply not deliverable. In what way . The Prime Minister took an interpretation of the referendum result that we wouldnt remain in the Single Market or the Customs Union. Today in order to resolve the irish issue, we will be having to comply with the rules of the Single Market and the Customs Union to resolve that problem. Then you just had michael gove in your package before you spoke to alan and i saying we will be observing judgments of the European Court of justice. Of course we were told fl rrttziez. F ; the other. , wouldnt happen. Of course the ofllec minister wouldnt happen. Of course the ofllec will minister is f wouldnt happen. Of course the ofllec will be minister is f wouldnt happen. Of course the ofllec will be mini tor is. Ass asill es paslfig us is ex eillisfii the extra be going extra be going to the and xtra be going to the and xtra simply e going to the and xtra simply wont1g to the and xtra simply wont happen and xtra simply wont happen so nhs and that simply wont happen so thats what i mean when i say brexit in the terms it was sold to your viewers will not be deliverable. And you have said the most difficult pa rt you have said the most difficult part lies ahead. What is labours role during that period . part lies ahead. What is labours role during that period . I think transition is important. Business has asked for this transition period after we left but lets not look a transition of as if it is some kind of safe harbour because you have left the European Union and lost a lot of your leverage. Secondly, at the moment we have said during that transition period we wa nt during that transition period we want uk to remain part of the Single Market and Customs Union. I think that should be our permanent position because thats the best way we can put jobs position because thats the best way we can putjobs first asjeremy corbyn has said, but also theres a huge social justice corbyn has said, but also theres a huge socialjustice element of the Single Market that keeps us within the framework of rules that protects rights as employees, consumers and the environment. Those are the types of things i think we should be focusing on. I think the challenge for our eu partners is they dont know what the british position is. We know the cabinet hasnt even discussed it. The chancellor Philip Hammond said to the Treasury Select Committee that they havent had a full discussion about where they wa nt to full discussion about where they want to go to as a cabinet and i think these negotiations in the next phase would be a lot easier if the European Union. I mean they have been pretty disciplined in talking with one voice, the cabinet hasnt, but this is a much more difficult process than anybody thought it would be. Who would have thought the good friday agreement would be impacted by brexit . This is simply not something people knew. Thats because in 2016 we were having hypothetical debate about what would happen if we voted to leave the European Union, now we have the hard fa cts European Union, now we have the hard facts and thats why we need an open mind about what happens at the end of this process. Theres nothing inevitable about brexit, we dont legally have to do this. Theres lots i would like to talk to you about there but sadly we are out of time. Chuka umunna for labour, of course. Lets talk about trade talks the eus chief negotiator, michel barnier, has said a free trade deal with the uk would have to be modelled on a similar agreement europe has struck with canada. He said britains insistence on leaving the Single Market and Customs Union left no alternative. We can speak to pascal lamy, a former eu trade commissior, and former director general of the world trade organisation. Hejoins me via webcam. What do he joins me via webcam. What do you make of that observation from the eu side that actually what britain should be looking at is Something Like the canadian deal . |j should be looking at is Something Like the canadian deal . I think that isa like the canadian deal . I think that is a proper way of describing one of the options. Inaudible. It will have to negotiate a Free Trade Agreement like canada, like mexico. Whats going to be the content of this . For sure less free trade than today. The best option of free trade available on the planet is the eu internal market. Zero obstacles. So its not going to be as good as today. How less good in between today and. That the question. I personally believe, and im not speaking for michel barnier, that this is a rather easy negotiation. Zero tariff is the rational option and the option that will damage the least. So thats not the problem. Inaudible. Then you will have a replication of the problem. The irish question. The reason is the only option that is in this compromise is that there will be no hard border, which is good, because its politically very important, not between north and south north east and west, but how you avoid. Is still totally unknown and it will do the problem. How much of a commitment does the uk ta ke to how much of a commitment does the uk take to systematically follow eu regulations for pesticides and flowers, safety of cars, services in banking, accounting. Ivu follow the eu regulation and you can have relatively free trade or you dont. We will leave it there, very good of you to give us your time. I apologised to viewers for a rather difficult line there but addressing the possible deal, a bit like the one the eu has with canada and issues around the irish border question as well. Im sorry that line was periodically rather tricky, the joys of the internet. And a reminder that if you want more detail on todays Brexit Agreement the bbcs Reality Check Team has been examining some of the key lines in todays document. Just go to bbc. Co. Uk reality check. And we will talk more about that deal after 5 30pm. A protester has been shot dead in gaza by the israeli army in clashes that have followed president trumps decision to recognise jerusalem as the capital of israel. Security had been stepped up across the region after palestinian groups called for a day of rage. 0ur correspondent jon donnison reports. It had been billed by palestinians as a day of rage. By late morning, clashes had erupted in the west bank city of bethlehem, Israeli Soldiers firing tear gas at Palestinian Youths hurling rocks. In gaza, at one Palestinian Youth was killed by israelis opening fire on protesters marching towards the border. Thousands of demonstrators descended onjerusalems old city and the al aqsa compound. Scuffles soon broke out. So far, the violence has been in a relatively small scale. The question is, will it escalate . But theres no doubt that for now, the palestinians feel that in declaring jerusalem israels capital, donald trump has crossed a red line. Translation when the american president makes this kind of decision, he reveals all other leaders and regimes who are cooperating with him. He is also pushing the region towards violence. Jerusalem belongs to all muslims. Jerusalem is in our hearts and in the hearts of muslims all over the world. It does not belong to trump and not to the jews. But that was not the message the president was giving at the white house last night. Well, i know for a fact that there are a lot of happy people in this room. As he celebrated thejewish holiday of hanukkah a week early, this year he knows that with his intervention onjerusalem, hes come bearing gifts. We wish you a very happy hanukkah, and i think this one will go down as es

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