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On the election trail has been forced to take a back seat will the president ial candidates ever hit the road and so their brand of politics to americans before the vote followed the u. S. Elections on a just. On a saturday morning in kabul families gather to remember their loved ones killed during more than 40 years of conflict in afghanistan. You know its true. This is the memory box example. Families put together boxes like this to make sure their loved ones are numbered and put a face to the words violent cost. Is false this is a this comes that should. And then because its the times. Since the United Nations began tracking civilian casualties in 2009 more than 35000 civilians have been killed. Was killed by a suicide bomber in 27. Hours and so important to remember who says to us were. Going to show this is just an illusion. Each part of the. Conclusion. Is that. You can see. Whos in the. Middle or teen in the same country on one of the teams no one on listening to these people they ought to implicitly forgotten the off marching on last. What are you by the day experienced no one is listening to these people. So why you may want to box we are trying to kill here. A shadowy stretch these are history must to be told to by watch the teams. As families work to make sure their loss is not forgotten. Afghanistan is on the cusp of a new chapter in its history. After the u. S. Of the taliban signed an agreement to pave the way for the withdrawal of international troops. The high cost was paid to get to this point. Over the past few years the us is increasingly conducted its part of the war from the sky with more bombs dropped last year than any other year in the past decade but with that came a rise in civilian casualties and most of the fighting in. The sections. As the u. S. Prepares for the possibility of leaving afghanistan after nearly 20 years we wanted to know how civilian losses not only been investigating but recorded and remembered. As in the jungle of the most of them cut in the bin than in the and thats. Why im like you get it to me when i. Left last month you do. This so you know theyre all let us to move to spend you could have been the top of the. 100 my lights up on the moon the demon the for you dont you see its been just over a year since washita last saw most of her family alive. From blood supply the duck the woman must. Lead to sell about the plan because its tough on the. In march of 2019 Afghan Forces who were carrying out an operation against the taleban conducted a night raid in what he does village in the Eastern Province of number before calling in air support from the u. S. Military still love him and then the photos among the motive bill of course like you my mother doing that i love him but it was caught in the sweat of a the most learned. The poem would me were playing to me by women i mumbled a. Little bit out oh i got a good no. That isnt. The 1st incident will save us he missed. What he told us the only ones he felt alive were 2 for younger sisters one of whom was only a week old and as you survived. Then above huggin the to the south it is said because theres a lot of adjustment. Then lead in the legs to move to put it in a fuss not a lot of them does a lot im going to the group but they dont call it that theres the out of the bus thing. What he did told us that eventually she was able to leave to go find help. When the got going oh you know about the love of the sea but something quick is im going to cry like are the stupidest idea to sharif called is what he does ogle his brother her father was a doctor in the village. The strike was directed against the taliban but the night ended with 12 members of sharif in what he does family did not go to the doctor his wife 5 of their daughters in 5 nephews and nieces. Tree filled out a bit would happen the next day. He was in the other village when he heard thered been an attack. Made the. Link in the lead up to the court of the. Court got to get on them and called as it would you get the article out and you got the machine with i would on almost a hard as a Community College it will rise it was done seriously i like the singing going to minimize i mean i thought i was doing what i thought of thats ok so then im a come back to you ever though there were my eyes out there then a little quota could you marshal and then i would have a modeling studio be a god like in my that because. I would have to wait it out to me of course along the way cool the laughs it would it that i. See a lot of. Radio in that regard and i mean to do that it actually started when would be could be though i wasnt sure. Since the attack sharif has taken care of what he did in her 2 younger sisters who survived. Its still unclear what went wrong that night. Last year the u. S. Dropped more than 7000 bombs in munitions in afghanistan the highest number in over a decade is the trumpet ministration trying to push the taliban to the peace table. Weve been recording asterix in afghanistan for the past 5 years and the minute she transparency is a major problem and a barrier when taking into allegations of something you know. Its a constant battle and so we partnered with the bureau of Investigative Journalism to examine civilian casualties from u. S. Air strikes in afghanistan. This is the doctor yes this is i had to go one of the cases we looked at together was the case of sharif kloden what he does family go that we started to take a little bit more and we opened up to sort of the general public and open source expats and we started to find out all kinds of information we were able to locate at the house that we believe the doctor lived in. And new satellite imagery to get a step closer to proving in fact that that house was struck and weve also got images of funerals weve got images of bodies weve got when the bureau reached out to the u. S. Military about that airstrike bill we said that it was possible there were casualties in that their investigation was closed i think the the word possible. Is quite a quite a hollow victory for accountability in terms of what it provides the survivors its not a conclusion that can offer them can some closure in my eyes and i think whats the most that. Now talk about. Those of us who. Will allow us sharif told us he wants to know who told the u. S. And Afghan Military as they were tell about when it was just his family to sleep. But theyve received no answers has anyone from the u. S. Military been in touch with you since the night now not natures of the not. When we met them the year had gone by and they told us they still have not heard from the u. S. Military. Sometimes when the u. S. Or Afghan Military has acknowledged civilian casualties there just families money for their loss something known as a condolence pain. But sharif told us what they really want is answers and justice like unknown people who want to just write it. Down leave it at the base for a walk then again no idea. One of this is warm up a lot of that but one day though lets get. Oh i must mound of them out of this pond so the knocking and then the lot of loud loud as i am up when the miller out of court or some in the west. The mind of the woman must see. The past several years in afghanistan to see the rise in the number of civilians killed. And while the taliban has been responsible for the majority of civilian casualties. The 1st death of 2019 marked the 1st time that u. S. And Afghan Forces were responsible for more civilian deaths something the United Nations attributed to the rise of airstrikes in the war. The increase in the air war more to shift by the us military from previous years. Really if you look at afghanistan in the 2008. To 2011 we see people like general mcchrystal and general petraeus putting in tactical directive the leadership is constantly hammering on its forces saying you will not kill civilians we will improve civilian protection. And it works in 2008 we have the highest civilian casualties from airstrikes by 2011 those numbers have gone from over 550. 00 civilians killed in air strikes per year down to around 100. 00 then when the trumpet ministration comes in we see a complete flip and it really goes into the idea that were going to bomb the taliban in submission and bomb them to the peace table. While the u. S. And the taliban may have reached a tenuous agreement civilians are still coming to terms with the consequences of the air campaign. Weve come to couldnt use in northern afghanistan one of the countrys most contested provinces. Were headed to the site of an airstrike that hit here in july 20th to. Afghan forces were carrying out a ground operation against the telephone and u. S. Forces conducted air strikes in support. Of the bus but thats when you look at the duck. The put out there with you when you go to the airport im a bit about that. I did go to large want to go but just. The air strike that killed 14 civilians from the moment deans family including his sister and her children. And the most good little by that kewl im jealous to crawl under god now that you know them doesnt buy that because now im adult up either going to get in done as i did the much money. Which i think it make it like look at you does the. Film the help america bomb which is going to ticket the question. Cody fossil hardy was here the day the airstrike hit. The answer. Is so is here sear home is just right over there what did it feel like when this bomb hit what did it sound like. How do when you do not suck. When. The u. S. And Afghan Air Campaign over the past few years has been weaken the talibans presence and continues. And even after the deal with the United States was made the fighting hasnt stopped as the taliban has continued to attack Afghan Forces muscular at the end of the resident genki the dish be able to live on the edge of the spielberg of the spear when does it go in my eyes youve got about a little bottom up at a low level slow but it is equally let me. Go on. Brink of fire coming from my direction were going to get out here in a. 3 weeks after the air strike the u. S. Military said they had conducted an investigation and that there were no casualties. How did you feel when the u. S. Military said there were no casualties. And the only neil little. Either one of the 131 was what if i knew it was. Going in the midst of a lot of hopelessness and if you know both of them a. Woman. Who had a name in the within minutes. Abdul jabar lost his wife and 2 of his daughters his son who was 2 years old at the time was the only member of the same way who was there and survived the attack. And the. Only care. I wanted to also out of the north but. The family was able to push the Afghan Government to acknowledge the casualties and they received a condolence payment. But like sharif calling you havent got what they want answers from the u. S. Military has to notional come touch of that kind of career there. And international to home big 901 of that codicil. Led. School so the union. Did you feel a would. Like a moshi Little Police council. Months after the attack the same we found out that the United Nations pushed the us military to reopen their investigation in their acknowledged to the un that civilians were killed. When the worshiped it primarily to be an air war where there are any u. S. Personnel in close proximity to where these strikes are taking place weve seen real errors in the investigation of civilian harm there have been a lot of cases they have reopened usually based on 3rd Party Reporting its great that those cases are reopened but it shouldnt take a 3rd Party Reporting possible thirdly in harm for the military to figure out that they killed a bunch of civilians. And then most of that and i just say its. All of this raises questions about how the u. S. Military conducts its investigations when there are allegations of civilian casualties. The u. S. Military does not as a routine matter interview victims and witnesses of harm they generally rely on whether its might be videotapes or other electronic information from an airstrike often they will talk to local commanders who theyve partnered with they will perhaps seek testimony from the pilot but they dont go to the scene of the incident and talk to people who were there. In the 1st case we looked at told us no one had come to talk to them about what happened to their family or interview what he did about what she saw that night month or so with the most will go on. I think that because of that they are coming up with the wrong conclusion they are frequently concluding that no civilians have been harmed and strikes where in fact they have been. Another case we looked at also raised questions about the way investigations into civilian harbor tarried out. In november 27 teen during intense fighting between the taleban the u. S. And Afghan Forces u. S. Airstrikes hit villages not far from conducive including cochlea were phase lives is because hes got. Mugged. Its an economy. Not out of. The me that died on that it was only afterwards the saudis found his 13 year old son bashir not too lots of money. Dont want to give him plus a lot of them to do without them mohamed not be was there that day too with his son rutledge he was injured when that was on the eve of the bout of that of them was on the done by the west. To get off to the. Just another dungeon in the jail where the meat of the about the color of the john was. His son recovered the last part of his life. In the aftermath outside organizations like the u. N. So they had evidence civilians had been killed in district officials documented 16 civilian deaths including sizes. But the u. S. Military said their investigation showed there were no civilian casualties specifically stating that they spoke to hospitals and clinics in the region told them no injuries were received. After the press release this started to be a lot of information coming from the ground contradicted the official response yet the u. N. Saying that they havent if so investigation indicated 10 at least 10 civilian casualties you had a New York Times report that she went to a hospital and saw civilian casualties and we in fact spoke to several hospitals and. Some of which had said no they havent been counted by the u. S. Military told and they did in fact have civilians that have been harmed in that strike so as you can see a different narrative its starting to match and one that calls into question the original state of the u. S. Military. With. We went to one of the hospitals the Bureau Contact could use Regional Hospital the main hospital in the provincial capital and were severe injuries for the area treating. Doctor name of gold is the director here. But they are strict that had cut last november 2017 was a little less he will be out of what he. Did with his Family Doctor told us that they did treat civilians in that bill would from u. S. Military contact your. Brother will have other. That they will be able. Well its a bigger than. The subject. That is substantially the mood like we have ever followed up by phone about the strike or any other strikes and it happened in the region over the past few years most of the Political Class now there are only. Really made me question the investigations process if we were able to pick up the phone call hospital check this basic fact why were they doing it and why werent they getting it. I recently approached the u. S. Military for information on where this allegation came to i was told that i would have to step a freedom from a small quest. Which is a very tiny process and we may not get the outs as we want where we are hoping for something here so you think. Black of transparency makes it difficult to know what lessons were learned from the investigations into casualties. We wanted to ask the u. S. Military about this case as well as the other airstrikes and civilian casualties we examined but they declined our request for an interview. This is all accidents do happen mistakes do happen and that this is about i mean you know mistakes this is about saying sorry in this about accountability in the last be unaccountable war. In 2018 congress directed the pentagon to develop its 1st comprehensive civilian casualty policy and to improve investigations and transparency. But it remains to be seen is that how it will change. The u. S. Has shown improvement in the past that it can implement Tactics Techniques and procedures that minimize civilian harm you cant always 0 out the civilian casualties but we can certainly do better and we owe the afghan population better than what were doing now. It wouldnt even begin to. The families we interviewed not receiving a guardsman from the u. S. Left without closure. They told us that they so like what happened to their loved ones was a crime. And they want justice and answers something war too often denies. In the puter that the. Good or the tell about the war to the other to who used. To be a loser move the boot on the pages or when they have to listen and look at that because of the lefty. Deans family hasnt rebuilt the house here to the constant insecurity is the word edges on so the rule instead is a testament to their loss. But a loss of the idea will go is as it moved as this it is here. In the book im saying the bill cosby his unusual bill is admission the beams in the news with. The you know just ms and the is meant to settle in. One of the things i think that really hard for people to understand who are not experiencing a conflict situation is how much victims simply want to have their harm acknowledged when something goes wrong to have no acknowledgement even not even a phone call about even a letter from someone in in the u. S. Military i think that that really hurts them. Or their ideal or you. Personally didnt indias that or holidays. But what then ghana not them doing that are those useful chattel o. C. Among the children living in the. Senate the supporting the criminal doing. Of the guy like. Yemen. Mother the one. Year the speedy kill them up there to come. Polish up see this is chip by that promise and is that a chosen im going to dive into cool gives you know the gardai lets say that the middle of the year will be silent. Running. Cosmo horton called can we cut cut cut cut. As the u. S. Prepares for the possibility of leaving afghanistan after their deal with the taliban civilians want to make sure that what happened during these 2 decades will be recorded. In that their loved ones wont be forgotten. Or most of all fear not pass the reunion was about me and quality of. Negative. The house i have the whole of the house out here be here for us. Help us to do all that a part of the period i live it means that more and more hostile forces. For me all of this saw it all fall for it. I think youll. See a wall. Of a theory about. How much because you. Are. 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