Improper about the links. Are up to date with a headline coming up in twenty five minutes time ill see you then thats after the stream which starts now. Ok i really could be lying and youre in the stream live on aljazeera and you tube today a stream update issues brought to us why you are community as the bone climate talks start wormy to journalists who went on ad extraordinary voice to antartica to investigate Climate Change and then out as he was killing tells us what to watch out for as u. S. President donald trump tours asia but first why are more than six hundred refugees refusing to leave or prison and papa new guinea take a look at this video from al jazeera online. Dating us with the latest details on this developing story from sydney. Andrew thomas and youve been reporting on this story for years now the stunning governments idea was how do we stop people dying at sea who are arriving on boats theyre not being processed officially is over a unofficial and theres a death toll as well. Going out to where we are now twenty seventeen this studying around about twenty thirty how would you say this is been a successful policy by a strong in government are they happy with how things are turning out by now. Well there are other thing not happy about the Current Situation almost silent but i think they would say that their policies the a huge success youve got to take this all back to where it began twenty zero eight twenty nine twenty ten go for twenty thirty in what hadnt happened to australia before the start of the kids were riding on a very regular basis two sometimes three boats a day now the numbers might not be a Huge National standard but australia has a relatively small population and when youve got fifty thousand people arriving on officially at the government here with say by boats and many of those boats and theyre not getting through as well and as you say more thousand people drowned when their boat sunk on the waves or spray or something has to be done to the politics of this of course as well those elections when the so the government came up with this past policy which said that anybody arriving by boat to australia would never get stay in australia and more than that they would be instantly deported if there was a rise in australian planes and sent to either company again the or where they would be processed to decide if they were genuine refugees or not and if they were then they would get asylum but not in australia in either putting new guinea on the route or another country that australia deems that dependency but they would never come to australia and that has been the consistent message all the way through from the Australian Government that they would never get comfortable straits and in a sense that that worked as a parent its been spectacularly successful both are not coming for the government said yes there hasnt been a successful boat landing in australia as they call them from all a thousand days so the policy has worked but the legacy is these men that are in the family on the river that is perhaps what has been a whole lot less successful certainly from a p. R. Perspective right what were talking about and realize the idea one of the top news lines right now is that there are men who are refusing to leave this camp there theyre being forced to be. Relocated out of this camp and theyre refusing to leave this is one of the people who are on menace island one of the refugees his name is a car and this is what he wrote not too long ago i left my family and friends and was seeking safety but i couldnt find safety its better if my boat was sunk and i was dead hashtags menace he got a lot of replies from people saying you know we dont want you dead were glad that you are in a more safe place than on a boat that could be sinking but of course his conditions according to what hes saying are pretty dire why is it that people are refusing to leave back camp. Well there are also complicated reasons i again just quickly get a little History Lesson on a map and the been there i know the place i know what its like the less what will a camp but really it was a prison in the traditional sense and barbed wire high fences got a lot more about a thousand men in there and during their time in its present they were assessed to be refugees or not well that happened again in court decided morning a year ago now that it was illegal under patton you give you lot to detain to imprison people in this way so they ordered this person was not in your state property ran it or i will comply with that but i have had a long lead in time and ive always been saying that. I was the day when they were going to close that prison and thats what they stuck to another exactly and youre saying it right now theres alternative accommodation elsewhere on mass on as well as people can move to but there are three reasons people wont go there first of all they say im against things of that now that accommodation isnt ready you can see its only half built well some is ready and some isnt ready i think the truth is the reason not of the ready for at least the majority of those people move out of the present but there are other reasons that i want to go second reason that i want to go as i dont feel welcomed by the local community has a lot of hostility towards the refugees amount of time and its a place with a fairly High Community that hasnt really welcomed outsiders frankly guinea is a Tribal Society the very difficult one to integrate into and also lets be honest the refugees havent mason felt very well and they have been loudly complaining about what an awful bike path when you get a year for a long time and as a result of blacks they have not exactly in their themselves to the locals but lets again be honest the locals have been incredibly hostile to them there was a pilot for example saying when locals broke into the presence of a big many refugees one guy was bashed to death with a rock i mean it doesnt get more brutal math and the refugees been on a very regular day released over the last year and a half or so and the been many many many incidents where those recipes. Well out in the community of being beaten up and beaten robbed they can have mobile phones to their families back where theyve come and have those stolen many things that the conditions are dangerous but i do think it is also true that the third reason and that is the principle of the thing i saw to a refugee on an asylum the weaknesses and lets be honest its part about the culmination part about this but is there a bit of principle here are you being a bit stubborn you dont want to get pushed around by Papua New Guinea and australia and hes absolutely this is principle we have had for years of our lives in limbo not knowing whats going to happen to us having to do with the australian living in the condition of the man it sounded like a promise we dont want to be pushed around again this is not pakistan this is our chance to get our message on the National Political agenda and the International Media agenda if we just passively go to the alternative accommodation quietly no one will ever remember were here we can be stuck here for fourteen years before two years these four years will seem like just the beginning so you dont sense gotta respect that principle argument but i dont think we should ignore it you know it is impossible so we got a comment here from carl he says that these men had been offered homes and asylum from the new Zealand Government of africa take a hundred and fifty at the huge number of lives that could be saved karl size Australian Government has concerns that they will be able to come to australia at the end with zeal and so they are refusing that what hed tell us about that. Why was a press conference on sunday just in the rather new zealand Prime Minister was in sydney the meeting was an example Malcolm Turnbull never seen orders from a left of center party needs and they actually have been more challenging to australia over this policy and more willing to sort of point out the flaws and all of these it is a long have this or that the only place some of the refugees australia the client and other declined it because the feeling that ultimately have rights to live in us but you and. The authorities they could refugees were allowed to resettle in new Zealand Australia government and ultimately more from australia and that was the peak this never australia policy but theyve also australia got to the all now with the United States to take some of the refugees again you might think well developed countries why would why would that be any more of a parent than anything else but again its that by the principle your form of government has not australia in the sense anywhere they want to work through that deal with the us moving painfully slowly i mean donald trump. So far if the refugees have been resettled in more than a year and were talking we will number we will have to invest a grant of the show right here and i thank you so much for being part of this conversation thank you for joining us keep us posted i think developed i know its one that actually anyone to keep following after man as were going even further south to the end of the world heres a peek at the Award Winning interactive project done by aljazeera earlier this year. But the building was the beginning of what is forecast to be a lot just storm over the next twelve to twenty four hours were going to have to travel through the heart of it here at the Southern Ocean and again so just how this got of those service dogs down here we are going to get down here to the other side of them at the top jobs but you also have to try and collect some a little bit or a lot of the collected also your phone. Its a really tough environment to work out. You just play one on a month long voyage to antarctica to investigate Climate Change last week the interactive he produced with abba taina was honored by the association of International Broadcasters congratulations our kids here to share stories from his trip tariq i want to start here with a tweet we got from narva on your journey he says that the current rate and speed of Climate Change how long do we have before the north pole and the south pole icebergs come clean only melt down i dont know if you can give us a specific number there but based on what you saw in your journey what do you make of thats quite a lie and i think its a good question in the sense that many people are asking that that question about meltzer its a huge whitehall if you like its the black hole we simply dont know when it comes to trying to work out whats happening in the Global Climate whats happening in antarctica the simply isnt enough dices not enough science being come down thats really understand we know this change we know its happening shots than ever before but how fast it is really unclear and why thats important is because it is such an enormous influence of the Global Climate system i mean ninety percent of the worlds ice dam on the tut this is a continent thats larger than australia and it doubles every winter because it freezes up now if that begins to melt that is a huge impact on all the currents in the worlds oceans and it feeds into the food systems too with a pattons a huge and. Ongoing effect across the globe so we dont know we know it is melting it will be many millions of years i would think before we completely ice free even if we carried on without fossil fuel burning frenzy but it is actually a very good question to consider. And one that same as with the scientists on this particular day so and they will look. Mel they were looking at temperatures of the oceans so something they were really concerned about looking at i schools as well i want everyone whos watching this to play out a scene you know interactive projects and you think that its interactive to aljazeera dot com or voyage to antarctica i can cut through as they are listening to you we should show this this is you leaving port what was your mission there was a Science Mission but what was your mission from month for how does it well really to document what was going on handouts its very few Science Missions have quite as many scientists some board we have people looking at. Ice we had a submarine on board so they could put a submarine down by the sea floor and look at the interactions of animals down there in fact they found some new new interactions between stuff fish and fish that had never been seen before and this is pretty significant they also put a submarine in under the lip of the of the glass yourself and saw some pretty remarkable melts in there we had a couple of helicopters on board zodiac so as we went around and this was a journey of us of a moment we kind of thousands and thousands of kilometers all the way down the east side of antarctica across the rossi and then up the the side of the peninsula to chile. Samples were being taken. That never happens normally people go to one place they do want to experiment they come back or wanted to express so my job was to try and understand what these scientists were doing a team from all around the world documented and i was filing by cell jazeera news but also this interactive we put together that was an issue that ran. During the show a little earlier this year where we put all this to get better and considered some of the bigger implications of it so my role really was the scam i was at my own cameraman. Trying trying to understand what was going on there how did that get down to. Oh look at this fantastic opportunity not only to go to a place in the world that frankly nobody goes to some of the sites we went to which is it on the volcano is right on the edge mount cycle absolutely extraordinary but kind of an on the side of that was a Adelie Penguins colony so we went to some absolutely remarkable places but i also had the worlds based guides these were ph d. Post grad scientists who would be deeply a minister in that particular and spics of sons and i could sit on the shoulder and say why you drilling here what do you take from that what pieces like an on the wrong you know whats this dude i can see on the bell excellently incredible got ads and then you know the photography you did and then the video goes down there the massive appreciation for the producers of things like blue ocean the kind of wildlife video cameramen im in just extraordinary particularly in what can be pretty cush conditions now of course and your photographer you are good because you shot penguins and so on line when we tweeted that out a little picture of what that looks like got a pretty big response and it prompted things like this tweet from simple who says what are various solutions as to how humans can help preserve antarctica reduce the effects of enhanced Climate Change on it. Well i mean its just its that big thing isnt that we need it to cut out Greenhouse Gas emissions that we need to stop doing fossil fuels that we know if we do it fast enough well stop the planets warming cycle that were in at the moment its a simple as that and i ever year and ive reported on Climate Change for many years now every year we have the call to the u. N. Climate talks starting they began this week and bomb just a few hours ago. But we talk about climate reduction in the mission is reductions actually year on year we we produce more and more and more emissions we havent actually faced up to the issue which is a lot of our creature comforts and the to god if were going to preserve the equilibrium on the planet at the moment and as much as we talk about it actually the actions and many many countries many many people dont match those good intentions tag and just want to show our viewers a little clip they did it and its a three hundred sixty which is part of the fun of interactive exhibits and so much more plus penguins have aleck. Well if youre seeing were looking on the wrong side of this three hundred sixty degree vehicles around the other side is a baby albatross chick one of tens of thousands living on this on a sub antigod just off the bottom of chile very name for. Granted special access to come here and see some of the birds. And with a group of scientists and travel around antarctica to a number of surveys of different species one of them being like this beautiful thing with drugs. We dont just now face on the street it is now an Award Winning project when you heard about that what was your what was your thought what we think and i know it wasnt just you but a little team but what do you think and what why do you think it was recognized. I think in some ways it was the privileged excess we go i mean really i just saw that clip now and and ive been busy on other projects since then but it brings back a wealth of memories and just thoughts i had about being able to go to such a unique place and i accept that our and the amazing opportunity to go and do that and then in some ways down that you you almost point a camera in india to any direction and the three hundred sixty degree stuff we did id never done before so pretty experimental from want to interview. But youre just in such an extraordinary location that pretty much what you see outside your window what you see trying to do all the time is remarkable and thats why that journey was amazing we had a very long days i hardly slept for a month because it was just too much going on outside the window there was this is incredible long some say it would last for six hours and then it would get you know like again the day would start every day we seem to be different remarkable location and thats how it was a flying out that way or or zodiacs i think perhaps an interactive what what caught the judges attention was rated this remarkable access but also i tried to bring a lot of the Scientific Data and details that we got out about whats going on into the. Experience for the viewer remarkable extraordinary and to see what hes been using on not in a second but definitely does have to be sat tight than