i knew that i wanted to do this and we could do it. you were so determined. and obviously, you had a special manager. and a special relationship. yeah. that s very important. yeah. how did it work between the two of you? well, i used to love because i m on the outside, i used to love who he was interested in buying. we used to go on we used to go and watch games together outside of watford, which was fun. we got locked in at rochdale. you got locked in? well, they wouldn t let the crowds were so small, they wouldn t let them leave. so, we got locked in there but we stood on the terraces. for me, that was so interesting. what players are you looking at? what who are you going after? did you involve yourself in that, or was it pure.? i talked to him about players. we talked about, what do you think of this guy? what do you think of that guy? um, and then he d say, listen, i ve got this player. i need to buy him. and that was, here s the cheque to get him. but he would nev
room after the game. yeah. would that have been out of the ordinary, though, wouldn t it? would it would graham have accepted it, do you think? um, i think he would have done, if i d have had the courage. it made sense. looking back on it, it made sense. i ve been there. i ve been to the big occasions. these guys haven t. and it s like, come on. don t be afraid. you can win this. everton aren t the greatest team in the world but they had old heads, they d been there several times before, and i regret that. crowd sings abide with me the famous image of that final, of course, is abide with me and you standing there with tears in your eye. very emotive. well, it s one of my favourite hymns of all time, anyway. and with the brass band, i ve always cried at abide with me. it wasn t just because we were there. i ve done it myself. ..it sjust a wonderful piece of music. and with the brass band and everything like that, and the occasion, obviously. i was walking around on the pitch thinki
i knew that i wanted to do this and we could do it. you were so determined. and obviously, you had a special manager. and a special relationship. yeah. that s very important. yeah. how did it work between the two of you? well, i used to love because i m on the outside, i used to love who he was interested in buying. we used to go on we used to go and watch games together outside of watford, which was fun. we got locked in at rochdale. you got locked in? well, they wouldn t let the crowds were so small, they wouldn t let them leave. so, we got locked in there but we stood on the terraces. for me, that was so interesting. what players are you looking at? what who are you going after? did you involve yourself in that, or was it pure.? i talked to him about players. we talked about, what do you think of this guy? what do you think of that guy? um, and then he d say, listen, i ve got this player. i need to buy him. and that was, here s the cheque to get him. but he would nev
a special manager. and a special relationship. yeah. that s very important. yeah. how did it work between the two of you? well, i used to love because i m on the outside, i used to love who he was interested in buying. we used to go on we used to go and watch games together outside of watford, which was fun. we got locked in at rochdale. you got locked in? well, they wouldn t let the crowds were so small, they wouldn t let them leave. so, we got locked in there but we stood on the terraces. for me, that was so interesting. what players are you looking at? what who are you going after? did you involve yourself in that, or was it pure.? i talked to him about players. we talked about, what do you think of this guy? what do you think of that guy? um, and then he d say, listen, i ve got this player. i need to buy him. and that was, here s the cheque to get him. but he would never overspend on players. no. he never took advantage of money with me. he bought players that he wa
yeah. would that have been out of the ordinary, though, wouldn t it? would it would graham have accepted it, do you think? um, i think he would have done, if i d have had the courage. it made sense. looking back on it, it made sense. i ve been there. i ve been to the big occasions. these guys haven t. and it s like, come on. don t be afraid. you can win this. everton aren t the greatest team in the world but they had old heads, they d been there several times before, and i regret that. crowd sings abide with me the famous image of that final, of course, is abide with me and you standing there with tears in your eye. very emotive. well, it s one of my favourite hymns of all time, anyway. and with the brass band, i ve always cried at abide with me. it wasn t just because we were there. i ve done it myself. ..it sjust a wonderful piece of music. and with the brass band and everything like that, and the occasion, obviously. i was walking around on the pitch thinking, god, we re in t