trouble. martha: okay. but she said this is a situation and she told me that he she saw him with no ashes on his forehead and had thought maybe he had gotten rid of them. but then i found out he was told to wipe them off after trying to explain them to her twice. martha: what did you say to the teacher about all of that? the teacher had called me later and i told her i wasn t happy and she asked me what can i do? and i said nothing. i have never been in this situation. you know, i have raised four boys here and this has never happened. so i didn t know what to do whether i should call my priest or what. martha: well, she wrote a note now. she said william, i m so sorry about what happened today. i hope we can move forward from this. mrs. t. so, william, do you accept her apology? yeah. i kind of feel bad. martha: you feel bad for her. do you think she genuinely didn t know what they were? um-huh.
martha: that s right. what did your teacher say and what did she do, william? so when she saw it she was like what is that? and she said that s not and i told her what it was. she said that s not appropriate in the school and go wipe it off and she pulled me to the corner. martha: oh, no. yeah, she gave me the deinfection wipe and told me to wipe it off. i tried to tell her two times. she told me to wipe it off in front of my friends in the corner. i wiped it off and she said more until it was like gone. martha: oh, no. were you upset? yeah. when i went when i went in the office i was crying because i felt like i was in trouble. martha: yeah. that s heart-breaking. karen, what was your response? i was plenty angry. i got the call from the principal. martha: so the principal called you and what did he say? the first thing she said is william is not in
martha: william mccloud is a fourth grader in utah like millions of catholics he received ashes in the shape of a cross on his forehead on ash wednesday. when he got to school his teacher said what is on your head and said wipe that off. she gave him a wipe to wipe it off. tonight that teacher is on administrative leave. he joins us now with his mom karen. you are not alone. last night on the show i also had my ashes on and i guarantee you some people out there who didn t understand what that smudge was on my forehead so what did your friends say when you walked into school with your ashes, william? they said like what are those? i was like i m catholic and it s ash wednesday and they put ashes on your head. it s the first day of lent. they are like well where do they get the ashes? burning no like the last palm sunday.