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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20220115 10:20:15

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20220115 10:44:00

Meanwhile, 2,500 miles away, high in the mountains, detectives pulled up to william marshall s house not knowing what to expect. for whatever reason, he was comfortable enough with us to let us in. things unfolded slowly. marshall was cooperative and even keeled though in full denial of any guilt whatsoever. i had nothing to do with this. no, i wasn t there. yes, you knocked on my door today and you opened up a chapt earp of my life that i thought i had closed. then detective wallace tried a different approach. they got talking about shoes, why that distinctive wear pattern on the shoes police seized from marshall back when he was first arrested after the murder of the kfc. he did explain to us that his pattern of shoe wear was such that he typically wore out his shoes in this fashion. he wouldn t untie his shoes to get them off, he would kick them off, and the rubbing on the heel, constantly rubbing coming out of the shoe, eventually wears his shoes.

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20220115 10:43:00

What if detectives interviewed both yvonne and marshall on the very same day? would they trip themselves up with divergent stories? two teams went out the day that mr. marshall was contacted, one team contacted him, and a second team went to ohio and contacted her. yvonne was living in cleveland by then. and they say we need to talk to you about something that happened 20 years ago. and my brain went and i m like, okay. so they tell me they re reopening up the one about william and the kfc. they asked me was he with you? i said, yes, the whole night. all those years later, yvonne insisted the story she told then and now was absolutely positively true. william marshall s alibi remained rock solid.

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20220115 10:45:00

And he actually showed us several pairs of shoes that had the exact same pattern of wear. then detectives surprised marshall. they revealed the existence of that strange piece of foam found at the crime scene. they told him one of the boots seized from him was so worn it was missing a piece of foam, and the remaining foam in the boot seemed to match it just about perfectly. so you re saying that this boot foam this is boot foam is what you re telling me? and you re telling me that s out of my boot? the cops asked marshall, can we take some pictures of those old worn-out shoes? that s when marshall put on the brakes. i had some very negative experiences and stuff with this case and i feel like i m going down, i m spiraling away here quick. maybe i should speak with an attorney before we go into anything. and with that, the interview was over. interesting, sure, but usable evidence?

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20211030 09:56:00

Robin s murder. william marshall was not 46. he arrived in court each day carrying a bible. his troubled youth, early drug addiction, brief rap sheet were decades behind him. this is a man who looked incapable of cold-blooded murder. he said nothing. he just watched john lewin make the case against him. william marshall knew before he walked in to the restaurant that night, he knew that robin knew him. so he knew that if he was going to do this crime, he was going to kill her, so this was just a heartless horrific unconscionable crime. the motive? drug money, then eliminate the witness, said prosecutor john lewin. marshall had been arrested before robin hoins murder for pcp, a man who needed cash, who thought he knew where to get it. and then yvonne hargrove told her story, looked over at