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Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20210907 22:42:00

we have our ballot initiative system where you can get a certain number of signatures and put anything to essentially all the state voters and that has then the power of law. and so that system is popular among california voters. i think there is going to be some discussion of the disconnect of what california voters see and the way that actually works which is the people with the most money can happen to the most motivated voter bases. i think that s something you see here. republicans in this race, conservatives, people who are frustrated with mask mandates and restrictions and frustrated with governor newsom for a variety of reasons are motivated to vote. the rest of californians may not know this is happening even if they support governor newsom or think he s done a good job. compare to 10/12 years ago when it was another governor being recalled and favor arnold

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20210907 22:15:00

that state official and technically a federal court will enjoy it and preventing it from going into effect. the name of the game is to allow the law going into effect, it will never come back even it is later and validated. they prohibited the state from enforcing this law entirely and deputize individual texans to bring private causes of actions to civil suits or quote on quote aid or abet, it could be the lyft driver or it could be someone in california who donates to the little fund or abortion funds. we don t know. there are a lot of constitutional issues embedded in this. that was not the point. the point is to get it on the ground and in effective in

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20210907 22:07:00

republicans have had in the state over redistricting and their ability to pass the kinds of laws like the senate bill 8 antiabortion law that they just passed again. again, deeply unpopular law than most people living in our state. professor murray, a lot of people watching now. there is some hyperbolic reference in texas, people are comparing it to the hand maids tale. there are people who sees nothing but the gloom and doom. i am not a lawyer. legally, what are the chances of the federal government or any of these local lawsuits be able to not just overturn or diminish this law that abbott just signed but set the stage for this not to happen again sometimes right before next fall s elections?

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20210907 22:08:00

jason, it is important to understand the limits of law. will law play a role here? surely it will. it is clear that this law, sb-8 violates the constitution. it was drafted for the purpose of evading federal court review and having it being a adjudicat. it is some what susceptible to political pressure or at least mindful of those pressures. the law takes a long time. it is going to be a while before a challenge makes its way into the state s system. it does not matter because this law was drafted purposely to ensure that it would go into effect and it will cobble in texas. that s what s going to happen. even if this law is later declared unconstitutional, you can t unring this bell. we saw this in hb-2.

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20210907 22:00:15

Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20210907 22:00:15
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