equally important and others and equally importantly exercised that especially in a time like this where we don t have the police to do the job that taxpayers had hoped they would be able to do and it also have to speak to the mentally ill. how little we are doing to help it if we took money way from the to help the mentally elwers the health? we artino what happens when people don t step up. people haven t been stepping up and that s why you have the daniel penny and that s why america is rallying behind this man. everyone knows what it feels like to sit back and say should i do if? even the people sworn to protect us are like should i intervene, do i want to lose my family, do i want to lose my badge, do i want to lose my life can be imprisoned for the rest of my life? every single american citizen
nothing to do with race. you think the charges against daniel will have a chilling effect on those who might be willing to step forward and be a good samaritan? well i would say to you guessed and it s a scary thing to do. that s part of the reason why they are so much support because people are stepping forward saying we don t want that. we want people to help each other so it s in fact going to be consequent when you prosecute someone for acting in self-defense or the defense of others that others are potentially depending on how the case goes will be a big part of it is the prosecution successful and if it is well everybody simply be afraid to help one another and to put themselves in harm s way to react to a difficult situation with the fear that they will be judged later and possibly punished for what they tried to do to help. you reference this it s over
the penal law said a person can use the amount of physical force he recently believes is necessary to defend himself or others reasonably be too believed to be the imminent use of force or illegal use of force. the question i would imagine is what was going on in daniel penny s mind when they made the decision to get involved? exactly. there s an old saying in law which is when cases and this is going to be a test based upon the facts. those facts will be as follows, what was the demeanor of jordan neely on that train in an enclosed environment that he yells gun and takes off his jacket and that s clear he s ready to go all out. he throws the jacket down to what comes down to is a balancing test of whether or not what mr. penny did is reasonable in light of the threat that he perceived from jordan neely and
us how is daniel doing. he is very stressed. there is a tragedy that occurred here. this really nothing good at this point, however he is staying close with his family. and friends. and getting their support to help him get through this. judge jeanine: and did you ever expect the charges to be broad in this case? well, i did not. it was not something that was easy to foresee. since you had an individual who stepped in to help his fellow passengers. to then be sharked with death of mr. neely, was a bit of a surprise, considering the fact that he was interviewed by police and was told he was free to go. and then later arrested. it was not something that was anticipated. you can tell us what happened on the train? before daniel stepped in in. well, generally, most of what has been reported is true as far as mr. neely
him down to the station and asked him. can you come down to the station? he was very willing to do that. you know. daniel wants to participate in this. whatever investigation was going to be so he did. you went down there with them voluntarily. and he sat down with the police because danny has nothing to hide. so danny spoke to the police for as long as they want to speak to him, and they made a determination based on what he said what the witnesses said that there is no reason to arrest him and they and they said you re free to go. any luck. okay the autopsy came back within a day and a half. was daniel surprised by the results of the autopsy. yes i mean, he had it was absolutely unforeseeable for him to believe that the medical examiner s report would have come back, indicating that it was a homicide. so it was a bit shocking, but what we have to really look at their and what i told danny to. as i said,