and i m looking forward to it. marie: that was president from two weeks ago seeming optimistic about a potential sitdown interview with special counsel robert mueller s team as part of its russia investigation. since then, trump fox news has reported that president trump s lawyers were leaning against the idea. they are where the president could get caught in a so-called perjury trap, now a new report they have advised the president to reject a possible request for sit down a special counsel. if did not interview, mueller could subpoena the president, testify before a grand jury prolonging the probe. the last time we were on the show together, you had mentioned that michael flynn, you believe he got caught in a perjury trap. do you think that president trump is subject to the same fate? judge napolitano: yes, i do. i think even more so. the president being diplomatic does not always use an economy of words and has strong opinions on so many things is likely to get in a q&a with h
russian agent to write the dossier. judge napolitano: that is a brilliant summary by devin nunes of why a bob mueller needs to expand his investigation to see of the influence of the russians not only came through donald trump s campaign but through mrs. clinton s campaign as well. for all we know, he s looking there and we don t know about it because his investigation. melissa: there isn t any question that it came from the russians. marie: can i just jump in for a second. it will not let the judge answer that one point. judge napolitano: of the was prepared by chris steele, former british mic. and he had russian sources. if you read the dossier, put a side of the salacious moscow hotel room part. the rest of it accuses then mr. donald trump of very, very, very serious money laundering involving russian mobsters in the kremlin officials. it s never been verified, it s never been vouched for by the
bob mueller subpoena him before a grand jury having no idea what the president will tell the grand jury? that s a dangerous environment for mueller. harris: it is and i imagine it would be mueller s last resort. what are some of the other dance moves that we could see him try between that and the subpoena? would he agree to a short time in our two with the president what are some of the other things? judge napolitano: i would think the president s lawyers are trying to negotiate an interview limited integration and limited and subject matter and it would try to prepare the president for the interview by persuading him and talking to him. harris: may be writing the rest of it out. judge napolitano: i think written questions is not going to be helpful because the lawyers will write the answers to those questions. if bob mueller has gaps in his case against the president whether it involves a conspiracy to help the russians back hillary or whether it involves obstruction of justic
toward the investigation and toward the independent counsel. let me read you what ari fleicher. advice for potus. you have not been vindicated. you won t be unless bob mueller says so. stop talking. you are heading into a giant perjury trap. john avlon, sage advice. be careful what you say and they keep saying a lot. this president has impulse control problems. the chance he is not going to say something is virtually nil. he offered on friday to speak to bob mueller. the fact that he is pulling a general akbar it s a trap. if they could, they would have contained him a long time ago. he is not wrong. it raises the question of the president s lawyer saying we will see about the sanctity of
the special counsel. there are constitutional problems here. the president said that never stopped him before. he would be delighted to testify. a weird bread crumb when jason who is ally with the white house would not rule out firing bob mueller. that is outside counsel. panel sorry. not just outside counsel. rosenstein was asked and he would not commit to writing anything down to say bob mueller could keep his job without interference. a new legal headache for the president. he is about to be sued for allegedly hiviolates the constitution. will bob mueller look into that as well? we will discuss that next. you too, unnecessary er visits. and hey, unmanaged depression, don t get too comfortable. we re talking to you, cost inefficiencies and data without insights. and fragmented care-