some other power in some bizarre way. i don t have any proof of it but he was tweeting on december 31st of 2019 that this was coming out of a lab or something to that effectguy who epidemiologist who loves epidemics and i guess we shouldn t blame him. somebody needs to care about these things. they re serious. this is a case where we probably had an epidemic that was most likely caused by human gain of function, not by nature. and he needs to be looked at carefully by the u.s. government. bill: to be clear here fauci s response is quote it s totally consistent with the jump of a species from an animal to a human. a lot of other people said it is too early to make that conclusion. that was his response.