deal without funding. and it also means this, i think this is important. until democrat leaders get back from hawaii and elsewhere and the new leadership moves into position later on in the week, there is little chance we ll hear of any movement. there is a lot of distrust in town. i guess you could blame both sides for that. but after lunch, i ve never been more encouraged if we can get people talking we can find our way out of this mess and that would include around $5 billion for border security, wall, fenceings, what you want to call it in areas and make sense and deal with another problem that s looming. no public events for the president today yet. should it change i ll let you know. back to you. eric: your reference to hawaii, nancy pelosi on the beach while the president remains behind the resolute desk in the oval office. heather. heather: with president
base and that s who i ll copy and go out and try to win in iowa and new hampshire and ultimately texas and california come early. so that s why i think beto o rourke and camilla harris have a huge advantage even though they are not known nationally at this point. heather: if democrats go that direction what does it mean for republicans? republicans, we may see a primary. kasich is out there lining up support. that s the split between the new trump populist republican and kasich more moderate and of the elite that finds trump distasteful. my prediction there is trump will completely crush that. 80 to 90% of the republican base wants to see him succeed even if they don t like every tweet he has, they want the president to succeed. and basically groups like ours that are more issue-oriented like the fact that the economy is doing well. he has cut taxes and reduced regulations.
the radical left base that wants open borders. what donald trump and the republicans want to do is waste $5 billion in taxpayer money on an ineffective medieval border wall that is a fifth century solution to a 21st century problem. 5 billion appropriation wisely spent would be a long way to securing our border. it is not about physical barriers and other things. if we can find a way to make sure the daca recipients have a work permit that certainly makes their lives better. heather: the white house is defending the president s efforts to secure the border following the deaths of two migrant children from guatemala. it is a tragedy i ve discussed directly with in the and requested and received a briefing about those deaths. any death of a child or anyone is an utter tragedy. i don t like some of the democrats using these deaths as
fighting isis remnants. isis isn t mostly destroyed. a report released by the organization four months ago indicated 20,000 to 30,000 isis fighters are operating on the ground in iraq and syria. eric: a lot of concern about the impact on a possible withdrawal for the kurdish fighters in syria, of course. yes, as american troops prepare to leave syria, the effects of the u.s. withdrawal are already being felt across the region. on friday we did see russian-backed syrian forces entering the northeastern city at the invitation of kurdish fighters. previously these two groups have fought battles in syria the kurds feel a massive turkish military operation when the u.s. leaves the country. residents face either an invasion by the turks or takeover of syrian government forces, both of which could lead to more violence in northern syria. eric: certainly complicated. trey, thank you. heather: back at home the
she says the system is overwhelm and calling on congress to act. the blame game in washington is well underway. the president blames democrat and pathetic immigration policy and the democrats say they died in the custody of the u.s. government and the trump administration is to blame. heather: what about progress on the deal to end the shutdown? both sides say there has been zero progress. democrats say the white house hasn t reached out in weeks. the white house says that democrats are the ones who skipped toin. democrats have to come back. nancy pelosi needs to come back from hawaii. less hula, more moola for funding border security. we can expect to see the shutdown could last for a few more weeks. heather: thank you so much, kristin.