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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:21:00

We want to. they could have made them apologize. isn t that in negotiations, like, anything is possible anything is possible in negotiations, but there are also lines drawn in negotiations. joyce, i m sure from the very beginning, fox said, you know, we can talk numbers. maybe we ll get to numbers we re never going to apologize we don t care. we will burn the entire company down we cannot apologize because that will undermine our credibility to our viewers, which will undermine our ability to be able to make money on this network. so we ll talk numbers. we will never apologize. i think that is something that dominion obviously heard that message loud and clear yeah, a lot of people in the media would have loved to see that obviously, sometimes, in negotiations, there are lines that are drawn and say, we won t talk about this, but we ll give you $200 million more over here if that will make things easier. one of the traditional things

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:08:00

Defend this case surrounding extremely newsworthy events when it goes to trial talking about the senmartmatic case, likely there 2025. as a report shows, claims are disconnected from reality and, on its face, intended to chill first amendment freedoms, end quote. the network used similar language for the dominion suit, which fox settled on tuesday after the settlement was announced, smartmatic attorney released a statement writing, in large, the litigation exposed the misconduct and damage caused by fox s disinformation campaign smartmatic will expose the rest. joe, you might expect maybe a sliver of humility after the judgment against fox now, really coming out strongly and saying, we will fight this smartmatic thing to the end. they think they re in the right, despite the clip we just played. you wonder what the board members are thinking you wonder what shareholders are

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:19:00

Hitter last night against the twins. magnificent. the grand slams by, you know, kiké by the way, his average on this network could be, like, .475, right? 300 points higher than it really. what do you think, you like the idea yeah. i mean, look, we can have a little silo for ourselves and fellow members of red sox nation, where, you know, we look like a competent major league team. yeah. okay. i like that. meanwhile, other than the massive payout, it appears there are no other requirements for fox news and its settlement with dominion most notably, an on-air apology and acknowledgment from the network s hosts who aired false claims abs about election fraud yesterday, cnn s jake tapper pressed dominion s ceo on why that was not part of the deal. if fox viewers believe these lies, why not get them to acknowledge it

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:17:00

They released. they expect smartmatic to go to trial in 2025. that s a ways off. i don t think they ll rush to settle this case while they can let the clock run out on that. jonathan lemire, there s the larger question. you wrote an entire book about this, about the lie that s been perpetuated, that has been fed to the audience at fox news. the audience now isn t hearing much about what happened with dominion it s not hearing about all this discovery that shows, oh, the anchors were telling you a story that they, themselves, didn t even believe the record hasn t been corrected at least for that audience. no, it hasn t there was a very when the news was announced of the settlement, the fox news reporter briefly addressed it on air but not much since they had no idea which was even happening because they re getting their news from that silo they re getting the news from fox or other conservative media outlets, and there is no discussion of this case. in fact, there is seemingly a

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:28:00

Network that have said things. they just swept up in a story, and like all of us, sometimes that story takes you too far. too far. same thing with cnn same thing with fox. then when they make mistakes, you hope they come back and say, boy, okay, we got that wrong. we ve done that on this show i have to do it every three minutes on this show we have the ticker for you. by the way, yeah we re not perfect. 6:31, i ll be making an apology for something i said over the last 31 minutes. no. the difference here you re being very fair. i ve already said it. the difference here, they knew what they were saying was a lie. right. because they said it themselves when they were not on the air, that this story about a stolen election was a lie. that s what separates this from the mistakes we make, the new york times makes, cnn makes, the bbc makes, other news gathering operations make.

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