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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:19:00

to that effect. but here exactly it s not. it s not a true defense. the question is not so much did he believe the election was truly stolen, but what act, further to your point, did he take, did he and his coconspirators take, regardless of his subjective state of mind? did he believe that these electors that submitted the certificates to congress, were they the true electors, or did they go to a basement somewhere and say they were in the state house. there are so many questions like that. an important point. not did he think it was stolen from him, but did the electors scheme, did they believe the electors were what they said they were, the rightful electors. and that, i think, is a tougher case to make. rick hasen, danya perry, thanks so much for your time. coming up, his investigation laid the foundation for upcoming court battle. congressman jamie raskin and

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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 07:20:00

around him was saying there was no fraud, and the former president himself said things to that effect. but here exactly it s not. it s not a true defense. the question is not so much did he believe the election was truly stolen, but what act, further to your point, did he take, did he and his coconspirators take, regardless of his subjective state of mind? did he believe that these electors that submitted the certificates to congress, were they the true electors, or did they go to a basement somewhere and say they were in the state house. there are so many questions like that. an important point. not did he think it was stolen from him, but did the electors scheme, did they believe the electors were what they said they were, the rightful electors. and that, i think, is a tougher case to make. rick hasen, danya perry, thanks so much for your ticoming u ountry hree trials an county around a presidential campaign we re gonna go down that path.

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