i looked at some articles saying how it is probably better to pay the $95 and deal with it. reporter: the administration can t count on her. but for the affordable care act to act they need to hope this year 2.7 million others about her age are willing to pay the premium rather than pay the penalty. chris? peter doocy. thank you. let s bring in two lawmakers at the center of this debate. here in washington california congressman javier bacerra, head of the house democratic caucus. from tennessee, marcia blackburn, vice chair of the committee investigating the troubled rollout of obamacare. congresswoman black burn, kathleen sebelius will testify before your committee this week, on wednesday. what are the one or two top things that you want to find out from her? what we want to figure out from her is, number one, how much money has been spent, is being spent and is going to be spent on this website and on the
so important. it is about detailed policies. we must stick to conservative principles. let s offer a instructive alternative about how young people, about how every american can pursue the american dream, not a larger government, not more government programs we can t afford -plt you re not ruling it out, are you? i m saying at this point i don t know. what i m going to be focused on is winning that war of ideas, that debate of ideas. let s win that fight. then we ll deserve to be a majority party. governor jindal, thank you. thanks for joining us always good to talk with you, sir. up next, the obama administration says young people are the key to the success of its health care reform plan. will they sign up? i talked to my mom, family and friends and they re like it s not worthñi t.ñr are you scared? çó no.
but about policy. we cannot just be the party of no. offer an alternative about how young people and every american can pursue the american dream, and prosperity arrives in the growing private sector, not more government programs we cannot afford. you are not rueing it out? i am saying at this point i don t know. i am focused on winning the war of ideas, the debate of ideas. win that night and we will deserve to be a majority party. thanks for joining us today. it is always good to talk with you, sir. thank you, chris. next, the obama administration says young people are the key to the success of the health care reform plan. will they sign up? i talked to my mom, family and friends and they re like it s not worthñi t.ñr are you scared? çó no.
you re seeing some of these groups gather. we re going to have to continue to go after them. but there s a difference between us going after terrorists who are plotting directly to do damage to the united states and us being involved in wars. the risks of terrorism and terrorist networks are going to continue for some time to come. we ve got to have a long-term plan that is in the just military based. we ve got to engage in a war of ideas in the region. and engage with muslim countries and try to isolate radical elements that are doing more damage to muslims than they re doing to anybody else. we ve got to think about economic development because although there s not a direct correlation between terrorism and the economy, there s no doubt that if you ve got a lot of unemployed, uneducated young men in societies, that there s a greater likelihood that
obviously you ve had a sea change in your mind frame. i was in egypt. it was just before my arrest and detention. at that point you were an islamist extremist? i was. and i was very indifferent to the suffering caused by 9/11 to the american people. since then i ve gone and spoken at the 9/11 memorial. i visited ground zero today. but at the time it happened i was so full of rage and anger towards democracy, the western america, that it didn t touch me whatsoever because i was consumed by what i had defined as my own people s suffering. so how do you now you lecture people go, to people, argue with them of trying to change islamist extremists minds if this is a long war and i war of ideas as well as military war how do you change people s minds? picking holes in what i call the islamist narrative. that says there s a war going on against islam and muslims. the genocide in bosnia was a recruitment tool for extremists because of the fact it was so easy to make that point wit