Donetsk said russian forces around mariupol are using mobile crematoriums in order to get rid of the bodies, of the corpses of dead civilians. take listen. taking bodies of the dead from the streets, the dead from collapsing buildings. they re taking them out into the territory not controlled by ukraine and destroying the bodies there. if russia is truly doing this, destroying the bodies of ukrainians it has killed, destroying evidence, will we ever know the full extent of the crimes that russia has committed while in ukraine? i think we will have a good picture. i think there are many ways to build a war crimes case or a crime against humanity case or even a genocide case. witness evidence is important but so are forensics. so are as you mentioned, drones,
Makes these intercepts so important. the there can be signals intelligence that kid matched to the satellite images to identify specific perpetrators and that could be important in building a war crimes case. but there s added significance, some of the audio, not all of, it has been traced to the region north of kyiv where bucha is located. but there s also there also seemed to be already a lot of other cities. how do you understand that? there s also apparently audio transmissions from the region of mariupol and other parts of the country. but especially from, like you, said north of kyiv, the nation s capital, where we know that atrocities have been committed, pieces of the puzzle add up. we are confronted with actual proof that the people who were there may have committed these
Actually coldly calculated mess that has been spread through a big part of the russian army. the political relevance is that these interceptions dismantle the propaganda of the russian government, of the kremlin, not only other pictures, fake these people were not killed by russian troops, and the whole propaganda from if you have people saying on record, soldiers, saying on record, this is how you treat civilians in this country, like shooting a guy on the bicycle, things like this and this is what makes these intercepts so important. the there can be signals intelligence that is used to match to the satellite images to identify specific perpetrators and that could be important in building a war crimes case. but there s added significance, some of the audio, not all of, it has been traced to the region north of kyiv where bucha is located. but there s also there also seemed to be already
Acting out, under the stress of war or whatever, or living out their horrible fantasies but it is actually a calculated method that has been spread through a big part of the russian army, and the political relevance is also that these intercepts dismantle this narrative, the propaganda of the russian government, of the kremlin, that like not only are the pictures fake, and these people were not killed by russian troops, and like the whole propaganda is crumbling, if you have people saying on record, soldiers saying on record, this is how we treat the civilians in this country, like we re shooting at a guy on bicycle, things like this, and so this is what makes these intercepts so important. there can be signals intelligence that is used to match to the satellite images to identify specific perpetrators and that could be important in building a war crimes case, but
Things like social media posts by soldiers, together, make almost a water-tight war crimes case. if that were the case, their evidence, the german federal prosecutor who in germany is in charge of pursuing war crimes and crimes against humanity. um, they have universal jurisdiction so you don t need to be german or commit a crime against a german to be liable to be prosecuted by them. thank you very much. next, the incredible story of how a couple who appear to have been wanted by russian forces were able to evade being captured even as putin s troops were going door to door. plus, ukraine s foreign minister pleading with nato to help them now or it will be too late. nato s secretary general responds out front. and an historic day in the united states. the senate confirming the first black woman to the supreme