stuff when i don t even know what s going on? you get a call from a blocked number. yes. who is it? suna. suna guy, one of the man with whom carla was last seen and suna seemed ready to talk. lissa hit record on her phone. if there s any way i could ve helped anybody, i tried. i m not a bad guy, you know what i mean? lissa s strategy? just listen to suna. she wanted to build trust. like i say, i mean, i don t got nothing to hide. lissa thought if she was patient, suna might start telling her s story. those guys down in bismarck. i didn t even get to see her or nothing. all i know is she got in the car. what was suna s story? he said that he gave a ride to carla s brother in law and carla, and took them up to spirit lake. and he kept going? yeah, he didn t see her again. did you believe him? no. i could sure could use your
know what i mean? all this time, suna is telling you he wants to help, but his parents raise him right. that s him trying to negotiate with himself. that s the way i saw it. she just kept turning up the heat? and suna would go on, she would listen to him and yeah, then she would kind of turn it on, try to get some truth out of him. but after too many sleepless nights, fatigue caught up with lissa. i was just tired and exhausted, and spent. the breaking point for lissa came as suna told her his life was in danger. men from out of state were following him. the license plates are texas license plates, i have seen that. give me the license plate number, i will look it up for you. you can t come like oh, looking for you guys. suna had spun so many stories, so many lies, this was one too many for lissa. i maniacal thought that was funny, at some point. suddenly, every word he said
it made her laugh. i called to tell them about this and they aren t even concerned about it, you know what i mean? [laughter] i m sorry, i m sorry. i didn t realize what i just said. [laughter] you might think suna would be offended. i was out of line for that. but no, it seemed to knock him into some sort of reality. that was the turning point for him. he must all was almost persuaded by your laughing and your sense of humor. yeah. suna was about to give it all up. lissa s phone rings again and suna accents and invitation to meet in person. finally, for carla s family, the moment of truth. coming up, you still had that little, tiny glimmer of hope? i mean, it s just something you don t ever want to hear in your life. a new revelation from suna.
friends are turning on you. i don t even know what anybody is even talking about. were you trying to rattle him? well, he s questioning his own self about who he really is as a person. what do you want me to say to you? what do you want me to the truth. how about let s try for the truth. you are like a one woman good cop, bad cop. and i ve heard that one before. kind of fits though, right? kind of. suna, you know what? when you want to get honest, you want to get [bleep] real and try and save your own but, call me back. but until then, i m [bleep] done, okay? lissa hung up the phone. it was an impulsive move. maybe the wrong move. she just would have to wait and see. lissa updated carla s mom, loretta. how much of all this was going on is lissa sharing with you? she had shared everything with me. his whole conversation was a lie. he was just lying, here lying.
reservation. it s kind of surreal i think at this moment. we ve got three, four, five law enforcement vehicles coming out here. suna gets out of the car, we are all walking, the anticipation has built up to this moment. we are probably right around this area and we kind of stop, and then suna just points and he says, it s going to be over there. and where the bushes are, and then as we walk a little bit further, once we get to a certain point in time, we can see some of carla s clothes. you could see the body from here? we probably walked up a little bit further and then we could see some of those bright colored clothes. so, you knew you had found her? we knew we had found her at that point in time. this is a kind of point where suna gets a little choked up, he becomes a little emotional, and that s one suna says, you know, this wasn t supposed to happen. waited lissa at a house nearby. later, the agents brought and she i.d. d the body. the first thing that i notice was