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Transcripts for BBCNEWS Unspun World with John Simpson 20240604 12:49:00

to do clean business. so, when you talk to these people, do they worry that some of the politicians they are electing are tainted? absolutely not. sadly, it has become the modus operandi here in kenya. does he fit neatly into some sort of box? or is it still too early to tell what sort of president he ll be? i think people are giving him the benefit of doubt for now. his foreign policy, however, is not very clear. is he going to face west, like its predecessor? is he going to face east, and work more with china? it is not clear. it is interesting, because in a recent interview with the bbc, he was asked a very direct question about whether he was going to work with russia. you know, because they have offered cheaper fuel to lower income countries. his response to that was that,

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Transcripts for BBCNEWS Talking Movies 20240604 23:49:00

about 65% of its income from taxes on repaying loans. he is really an interesting character. but there are these darker sides to him, aren t there? i mean, there are many questions about issues of corruption. how can we square these two sides? well, he certainly has a chequered history. he has been accused of being involved in corruption allegations. the president denies all the allegations. the challenge, and especially for us as journalists is, in kenya, we have so many corruption allegations against prominent individuals, against politicians, but they hardly ever go to court. and when they go to court, they hardly ever result in convictions. so, we are at a place where it is very difficult to do clean business.

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