yes. there s a lot of time course correct. this is not a are we doomed or are we not cooked question. everything we do to reduce co2 emissions right now helps to lower the temperature of the planet in a long run and helps to reduce the impact. but i think what we are seeing now is a signal that this is happening now. it s happening fast. this is an emergency. this global warming climate change is not something that is happening far off in the distance to people that are living in the future or in some of their place. it s happening to us. we need to get serious about it. and this is what this summer is about, i think. jeff goodell, whose new book, the heat will kill you first, is out now. jeff, thank you for being here tonight. thanks for having me. that does it for the show tonight. i m jonathan capehart in for alex wagner. i ll be back at 9 am tomorrow on the saturday show, to you with congressman james clyburn of south carolina. congressman jasmine crockett of texa
oppenheimer: they are weapons of aggression, of surprise and of terror. richard rhodes: oppenheimer wanted the bomb to be used. how else would the world know what it was? eleanor roosevelt: dr. oppenheimer, are we creating something we may not be able to control? oppenheimer: in a world of atomic weapons, wars will cease. (ticking) newsreel narrator: it is d-minus one for the test of the world s first atomic device. else: this cultured, nonviolent man was responsible for birthing the most violent weapon in human history. and he devoted the rest of his life to trying to control the monster that he had unleashed. oppenheimer: if there is another world war. .this civilization may go under. kai bird: he became a political pariah. edward r. murrow: is it true that humans have already discovered a method of destroying humanity? (cameras clicking) else: and it finally ruined him. oppenheimer: now i am become death, the destroyer of worlds. (explosion booming) we have made a thing
very big installations. and for many of your viewers, it s something unusual, something they ve never seen before. do you find it useful, or even easy, to explain your art? not really. but sometimes, i get help from others to try to understand what i m trying to do and many times, i get the help of the spiders and their webs as much as thinking that many, you know, cosmologists you know, cosmologists are always trying to think about the origin of the universe or they find analogies in the three dimensional spider web of how the universe had formed right after the big bang. and that was one of the entry points. i mean, there s many things that i don t know. usually, i ask the spiders and their webs. oh, my goodness, so i have asked you about your art and you ve immediately decided to tell me about the spiders, so we have to get immediately to the spiders. we ll get there, yes! why are spiders so important to you? well, i was always fascinated about their webs, and that was kin
- -(clock ticking) jon else: robert oppenheimer was the father of the atomic bomb. he was this complex ball of contradictions. oppenheimer: they are weapons of aggression, of surprise and of terror. richard rhodes: oppenheimer wanted the bomb to be used. how else would the world know what it was? eleanor roosevelt: dr. oppenheimer, are we creating something we may not be able to control? oppenheimer: in a world of atomic weapons, wars will cease. (ticking) newsreel narrator: it is d-minus one for the test of the world s first atomic device. else: this cultured, nonviolent man was responsible for birthing the most violent weapon in human history. and he devoted the rest of his life to trying to control the monster that he had unleashed. oppenheimer: if there is another world war. .this civilization may go under. kai bird: he became a political pariah. edward r. murrow: is it true that humans have already discovered a method of destroying humanity? (cameras clicking) else: and
tomas saraceno, welcome to hardtalk. welcome. thank you for inviting me. it s a great pleasure to have you here, tomas. now, your art involves big ideas and, sometimes, very big installations. and for many of your viewers, it s something unusual, something they ve never seen before. do you find it useful, or even easy, to explain your art? not really. but sometimes, i get help from others to try to understand what i m trying to do and many times, i get the help of the spiders and their webs as much as thinking that many, you know, cosmologists are always trying to think about the origin of the universe or they find analogies in the three dimensional spider web of how the universe had formed right after the big bang. and that was one of the entry points. i mean, there s many things that i don t know. usually, i ask the spiders and their webs. oh, my goodness, so i have asked you about your art and you ve immediately decided to tell me about the spiders, so we have to get immed