other veterans for you are a licensed clinical social worker, working for the va in west palm beach? that is right. i went back to school at the age of 30 something and completed a masters degree in social work. it was not easy but it was an experience that shaped me it was all inspired by hire heroes usa and want to back to other veterans. so yes i m now a licensed clinical social worker working for the va healthcare system. jon: and as i said giving back your fellow vets. jon, you are organization of flies under the radar, hire heroes usa is not one of those you think of it. but you have had remarkable success in placing veterans in civilian jobs after they leave the military, right? yes we have been very fortunate jon perry with had support from great organization the call of duty endowment,