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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20240604 01:35:00

i think if they do what i suspect they re gonna do tomorrow, and we hear about it in the spring, it s gonna be almost impossible to effectuate the rights they were protected, as you said, under section two of the voting rights act, which was the crown jewel of how we were going to get to fair voting. and so i think that, if you put that in tandem with the more case that you are talking about, the independent state legislature case. what you are really looking at isn t temps to do, and black robes, what donald trump and john eastman tried to do in the 2020 election, which is say we are going to give state legislatures almost unfettered power to do what they will with elections, to do what they will with gerrymandering, to do it they will without suppression, up to an including election denialism, that is the harper case. and i think once you are there, and it s an reviewable, if it turns out that isn t reviewable by state courts, under state

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Transcripts for MSNBC Ayman 20240604 01:03:00

your time, i appreciate you joining us tonight. let s talk about what reforms you would like to see to the supreme court. if you have the authority to do something, what would you want to see done? i think it s the first thing that should be done, which is the only thing that can be done immediately, which is to change the size of the court. to change the size of the court, to give other administrations, and not just the trump administration, an opportunity to appoint justices. i looked at that, almost one year ago, when i was on the white house commission, because there was three issues. this is one of the most powerful supreme courts in the world. the last word on constitutional issues, virtually on reviewable with a code of acadie fix, and violating the code of ethics that they could do. in addition to the republicans who pack the court, and they can ways in which mitch

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Transcripts for MSNBC Ayman 20240604 04:03:00

because there was three issues. this is one of the most powerful supreme courts in the world. the last word on constitutional issues, virtually on reviewable with a code of acadie fix, and violating the code of ethics that they could do. in addition to the republicans who pack the court, and they we talk about in which way is mitch mcconnell kept merrick garland from even being having a hearing on. him they ultimately rammed amy coney barrett, and the when the biden, trump election was going on. so, the republicans pack the court. ordinarily, that wouldn t be cloudiness, because there would be changes overtime in the future. the combination between two additional factors makes those changes unlikely.

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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:57:00

expelling this out clearly. because it could be a little complex. but just to give an example here, what is so dangerous about this is, if the state legislator draws its own districts. and it draws it in such a way that say, a republican party can get 57% of the seats with 45% of the votes. then they have used this kind of anti-democratic means to barricade themselves in power, and then the supreme court comes along and says, sorry, those guys are essentially on reviewable. they can do whatever they want. you re in a pretty by script of minority rule then. right. and chris, remember, it was only in 2019 that the u.s. supreme court said, you cannot challenge a partisan gerrymandering map in federal court. okay. there is no way to challenge partisan gerrymandering in federal court. there was a 54 decision by the supreme court. but chief justice roberts said, in that opinion, do not worry. you are gonna be able to go to

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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 07:59:00

legislator draws its own districts. and it draws it in such a way that say, a republican party can get 57% of the seats with 45% of the votes. then they have used this kind of anti-democratic means to barricade themselves in power, and then the supreme court comes along and says, sorry, those guys are essentially on reviewable. they can do whatever they want. you re in a pretty by script of minority rule then. right. and chris, remember, it was only in 2019 that the u.s. supreme court said, you cannot challenge a partisan gerrymandering map in federal court. okay. there is no way to challenge partisan gerrymandering in

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