cnn tv camera, pan around the crowd. look how obsessed these crowds are. he was obsessed with the notion that the media was conspiring together, just to say how popular he was. every interview i did by phone with him, in person, probably about 20 interviews over the course of the year and a half of the campaign. the first thing he always brought up unbidden was the poll numbers. have you seen how well i m doing? he would have an assistant come and bring out the printed-out poll numbers here, just like david muir walking down the hallway, showing him, take time to study these numbers. for him i think growing up in the tabloid culture of new york city, it was very important to have the sense that you were getting on the front page of the new york times or in page 6 and the circulation numbers said you were reaching a certain number of people. that to him is so emotional,
$490,000 right up until this year before she announced her presidential bid. so this story is gaining some traction here. interestingly, it seems to be yet another way her failed 2010 senate race is coming back to potentially highlight what you might call lessons learned or casting a shadow over this race. we saw back in 2010, when she ran against barbara boxer for that senate seat, not just, for example, this issue with her campaign debt sort of not being immediately paid off, but also the attacks that boxer ran against her then, highlighting and really framing her record as the ceo of hewlett-packard. the campaign will say, and carly fiorina has said, that was a fight worth having and she s defended her business record. she said she will run on that all day. talking with voters out on the trail, it s not something that comes up unbidden all that often. that said, it may be something that could turn into an issue for her down the road if she continues to pick up steam in the polls, wh