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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 04:11:00

it was called reverse discrimination. it has been targeted from the very start. nobody on the right has wanted it. and now they finally have gotten what they wanted. you are right compared to dobbs. we didn t talk about this in the opening package, but the court effectively overruled an existing precedent. 2003 versus ballinger, where the courts are the limited holistic use of race was permissible in a context of college high ridge cajun in missions in order to foster a diverse classroom involvement. it didn t mean race was a tipping point. it didn t mean race was determinative. it didn t mean race was a preference. it meant race, along with a multitude of other factors, could be considered. the chief justice very disingenuously in his opinion seems to suggest that any minority student who is admitted to one of the schools got there because of race when in fact it was a lot of different factors that went into this. grades, test scores, work experience, and race may have played a part

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 04:15:00

and listen to them say that this is a victory for civil rights and for color blindness. i feel like it s kind of part of the actual other right, which is, to quote marc luther might move the king and to promote white nationalism. i was struck to talk about hypocrisy. two parts of roberts opinion, the carve out for affirmative action programs in military academies, which robert says no military academy is applied to these cases, however and i know the courts blow address righty of race based admissions systems in that context. this opinion also does not address the issue, in light of the potentially distinct interests that military academies may present. i mean, first of all, he s acknowledging with the military has said, which many people said is that diversity is paramount to having functioning society but also a functioning

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 01:12:00

got there because of race when in fact it was a lot of different factors that went into this. grades, test scores, work experience, and race may have played a part in it. by the time they get to those points, the students are incredibly qualified, and he completely undersold that even as he is healed affirmative action for promoting steelers theriot. types dahlia, to the dobbs parallel, it s also at odds with public opinion, where the public is on. this look at the polling. i think 57% of the public opposed the courts overturning of roe and not affirmative action should continue. ap in may of this, year 33% of the public believe supporting affirmative action in colleges is a good thing. i mean, am i wrong to say that this feels like a hangover of the civil rights era? they couldn t win on civil rights, affirmative action became the hobby horse in the late 70s and 80s, and now they

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 04:07:00

action. also in reagan s justice department at the same time was a young man named john roberts. as a young white house lawyer, robert s justice department make arguments against any government use of race as a basis for hiring and diversifying institutions, and he carried those beliefs with him throughout his 30s when he became the deputy solicitor general and the george h. w. bush administration. and those ideas about color blindness became a key feature of john roberts legal career. and then a 1991, clarence thomas was sworn in as the supreme court justice. in 2005, it was john roberts turn, and together these two man, these two justices have made ending race consciousness in american law, whether in affirmative action around voting rights they have made that one of the central causes of the court. the u.s. supreme court today ended its 2007 term with a history making ruling. the court made it much tougher for school districts to control the mix of children in american classrooms

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 04:18:00

going to go to talk about race insofar as they helped create their identity, but they can t use it as an explicit means to gain entry to university. it is so confounding, the logic there. i wonder if you could make sense of how and why this is part of roberts opinion. no, it s nonsensical. he simultaneously in the opinion saying, you can still kind of flip it in your essay and then goes on to say, but don t do anything with your essay program that undermines this holding. so he is both trying to stop and blow on this essay escape patch. and again, justice jackson, justice sotomayor called him out for it. i think there s a way in which i keep thinking that if you re an applicant to any university now, i think you are supposed to hint at your racial history and your identity the same way

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