i mean, joseph menn was talking about vpns or how many people in china are managing to get access to these sites that are blocked? well, sadly, that s not a number that we can we can give, because for many people who use vpns, they re trying to do it outside of scrutiny. but certainly lots of academics need to have access to vpns because they need it to be able to read literature published outside of china. lots of students and universities and there are lots of student protests in over 70 campuses. i wondered if it was a generational thing, you know, who s consuming what media, i guess, in china? are, you know, older people more likely to get their information from tv or.? i think broadly so. i mean, for example, if you take my my grandparents who are in the eighties, they still religiously watch the the evening tv state media broadcast broadcast as they have done since then since the middle lines but for the younger generation, it s really all about doing the short video platforms
need to have access to vpns because they need it to be able to read literature published outside of china. lots of students and universities, and there are lots of student protests in over 70 campuses. i wondered if it was a generational thing, you know, who s consuming what media, i guess, in china? are, you know, older people more likely to get their information from tv or.? i think broadly so. i mean, for example, if you take my grandparents who are in the eighties, they still religiously watch the evening tv state media broadcast broadcast as they have done since their middle lives. for the younger generation, it s really all about doing the short video platforms like tiktok, wechat and online news. and i think quite a broad cross section of chinese people have been watching the world cup, the football fans across the country seeing videos of unmasked, unmasked people celebrating in the stands at the world cup. and so those kinds of images of how the rest of the world is slowly
what media, i guess, in china? are, you know, older people more likely to get their information from tv or? i think broadly so. i mean, for example, if you take my my grandparents who are in the eighties, they still religiously watch the the evening tv state media broadcast broadcast as they have done since then since the middle lines for the younger generation, it s really all about doing the short video platforms like tiktok, wechat and online news and i think a quite, quite a broad cross section of chinese people have been watching the world cup, the football fans across the country seeing videos of unmasked, unmasked people celebrating in the stands at the world cup. and so those kinds of images of how the rest of the world is slowly returning to normal after a pretty disastrous pandemic in the rest of the world. but now normalising, i think, have quite a big impact on people in china thinking why can t we normalise as well? and joseph menn, just bringing you back in from the washi
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