counts will impact his base that supports him there and we also know there are never trumper s and people get about provided no matter what, number one whether we see black voters continue to stick with biden or if we see as polls have shown more black voters especially black male voters switch and vote for trump that could be a population that could make or break and providing especially in the key states and another thing how rfk junior factors into all of this. we ve seen there is healthy support for independent candidate and we see it as a protest vote so depending on how the people whether there trump supporters otherwise were biden supporters who end up casting their vote for rfk junior come november could be a huge determining factor. trey: i want to pick on something that staff made reference to. i m not good james carville has
counts will impact his base that supports him there and we also know there are never trumper s and people get about provided no matter what, number one whether we see black voters continue to stick with biden or if we see as polls have shown more black voters especially black male voters switch and vote for trump that could be a population that could make or break and providing especially in the key states and another thing how rfk junior factors into all of this. we ve seen there is healthy support for independent candidate and we see it as a protest vote so depending on how the people whether there trump supporters otherwise were biden supporters who end up casting their vote for rfk junior come november could be a huge determining factor. trey: i want to pick on something that staff made reference to. i m not good james carville has
independents, maybe the 25% of never trumper s. but the 20 37% that trump already has, they are not listening. the 37%, 70% of which are more persuadable to trump, they are not listening. then you have 12% that you have 6% either way. are we doing math right now? who are you talking, to laura? i m not sure. you should have a message against your opponent i think you should. and the timing right now, there is a moment right after the midterms where i do think republicans were saying, maybe we want to look somewhere else. but then the last couple of months, every month that i ve done my polling, donald trump s lead over the second place contender grows by eight to 10%. this is the point. it is a way too late now for republicans to say, oh, we don t want donald trump. there were so many of them saying that at the very beginning, you are right. even right after the 2020 election. people knew republicans knew that he was going to run again. and they could not get it togeth
conspiracy theory, he was a trumper s trumper. and asked about abortion. i m a man, what are you asking me about abortion? this is none of my business. i m pro-life, he identified as pro-life. but this is a woman s decision. and, willie, i think you just look at kansas, i think it s an example a lot of people who identified themselves as pro-life looking at what happened since roe was overturned. looking at the extremism, looking at the 10-year-old girl being chased from the state. looking at the texas attorney general fighting for the right to let mothers die on the operating table to tear away the protections that the federal government it trying to put in place. to protect moms to have a choice whether they die on an operating table or not. you look at all of the extremities. and again in another republican state legislature trying to give the right to members of a rapist family to sue a rape victim for
yesterday s primary far seeded other recent contests of 900,000 kansas voters casting a ballot. so, joe, clearly, this is a statement from the state of kansas. and perhaps a signal to republican candidates, and obviously democrats who want to run on this, come the fall, that this is an issue where many, many, many americans including the red states, have made up their mind, and kansas is a big red flag. you know, we have to send in elise jordan out to do focus groups. because we learned from focus groups. i remember in 2016, mark halpern and john heilemann had that focus group. with the group saying donald trump he s one of us. it was like a thunderbolt and you go oh, my god. wow. that s what s happening out there. and i m still thinking about elise jordan s georgia, trumper, the man, who fed into every