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Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20191205 01:18:00

in his testimony law professor jonathan turly criticized congress for what he called a facially incomplete and inadequate record in order to impeach a president. there is of course a reason the record is incomplete, as we said before. the president want to do that way. acting chief of staff mick muffle yes and don mcgahn refused to it testify. john bolt isn t not talking more is rudy giuliani. and then there are the documents the white house has refused to turn over any including briefing feerls for the trump zelensky phone call and staff notes relating to it. they did release a summary of the call. the august 15th presidential decision memo prepared by alexander veinman. and staff summaries and conclusions from ukraine meetings, a white house review of the aid freeze revealing according to the washington post empties to craft an after the fact justification for it. also withhold called records before gordon sondland, emails

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Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20191205 01:23:00

what is necessary in order to impeach and remove a president from office which is bipartisan support, today s effort frankly was dead on arrival. elliott, the counterargument is, well if you are extorting somebody you don t have dr. have to say i m now extorting you, you can have two statements of fact, which is this person wants aid, i want you to do me a favor, and isn t i mean, you can make an argument there is of an implied. right, very much not the way it works in real life. people do not say i hereby extort you i ve done more extortion cases than i can remember. it s always implied and the power dynamic is so important. colonel vein vindman said the 10% of the aid is. and president zelensky reaffirmed that. he said in a diplomatic way i had no choice. we re engaged in the war with russia and we need this. and i think to the point that david was making before, about

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Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Live With Katy Tur 20191203 19:31:00

a corrupt country and the president was very interested in corruption. because this statement talks about corruption in general, the initial draft system, the giuliani volcker and he s a ukrainian official, the statement takes it a step further and mentions those two, mentions burrisma, the 2016 election. the same thing the president mentioned on the call. how can you argue it was just a one off when it keeps coming uch over and over and over again. we saw this in am ambassador taylor s testimony where he was saying look, we tried to get a generic anticorruption statement out that would have been consistent with our long-term policy, but that wasn t good enough. they wanted a mention of burisma. one of the few things that was omitted from that initial call record was that actually zelensky said back to trump when he says biden, yes, we will look

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Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Live With Katy Tur 20191203 19:30:00

of the screen, you can see a better version of the copy and the understood line in black. so giuliani and sondland added this. correct. this again goes to did you want to clean up corruption in certain part of the world r or were you going after the bidens and when you had a statement on the left that talked about just cleaning up corruption, it says quote, on the left, complete a transparent unbiased investigation of all available facts. that s more defensible. that wasn t good enough. they wanted burisma in it and the u.s. allies here of the president apparently according to this, wrote it. mika, they say that donald trump just mepgsed biden in that call with president zelensky on the 25th, he mentioned biden in passing. it was not a big thing, not to be taken too seriously, but even if it was, it was perfectly acceptable to be looking into biden and burisma because it was

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Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Live With Katy Tur 20191203 19:18:00

we in house have a institutional responsibility. the political calculations i think were thrown out the window once the transcript of that call from president trump to president trump zelensky was released. so we have to proceed to do our constitutional duty and let s hope that the senate and all the members there if the house acts, will do theirs. congressman welch, thank you for joining us. back to ari. you found something in the documents. one of the big questions here has been okay, are we going to get a readout of everything we watched in those hearings and prosecutors do that, too, a summary, or new information. i can tell you, we have new information. the kind of stuff that would be breaking news, blockbuster front page stories if it were a story. it s just coming from the government itself. according to the spell jensen committee s report, i m holding newly released logs of rudy giuliani in august with the white house and zbres interestingly with the office of management an

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