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Transcripts for MSNBC Ana Cabrera Reports 20240604 15:29:00

legal equities as it relates to president biden. they don t want to have this kind of politicization of this issue, but it was interesting to hear this morning from dr. jill biden, the first lady, who was responding as a wife, as a mother and a grandmother. take a listen to what she told our colleague mika brzezinski. i think what they re doing to hunter is cruel, and i m really proud of how hunter has rebuilt his life after addiction, and i think, you know, i love my son, and it s hurt my grandchildren, and that s what i m so concerned about, that it s affecting their lives as well. reporter: despite what we saw on capitol hill yesterday, the republicans were undaunted. they moved that motion to the floor if the house ultimately, the full house does approve that contempt resolution. it sets up another decision for the justice department about whether to prosecute this case

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Transcripts for MSNBC Ana Cabrera Reports 20240604 15:12:00

million. attorneys from james office requested the punishmt impose trial motions filed friday in the trump fraud case. they said that trump owes 168 million of interest alleg saved through aud, 152ilon from the sale of the old post office building in washington, d.c., the site of one of trump s hotels. 60 million through the tra of the ferry point golf course contract. and 2.5 million from severance agreements for former trump organization chief financial officer allen weisselberg and ex-trump controller, jeff mcconney. i want to go a little further because attorney general letitia james is asking for the former president to be banned for life, by the way, from working in new york city and banned from serving as an officer and/or director of the new york

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Transcripts for MSNBC Ana Cabrera Reports 20240604 15:15:00

judge. but you know, there are benefits and negatives to a bench only trial. you have cut through the wheat and the chaff. you don t have to deal with the procedural issues of bringing a jury in and out. the person who decides what s relevant or admissible or even inappropriate as evidence is the judge, so he can t unring that bell in his head. it s a very interesting thing to try a case before a judge, a bench trial, and so your closing argument has to be tailored to that. you ve got to get right down to the bare bones. focus on your main bullet points. don t go in for the theatrics because you don t have a jury. so much of the closing argument is demonstrative, is the theatrics, expected to be shorter than it would be if is were a jury trial and expect kise to focus on their best witnesses, none of whom were named trump. he was a witness,lo with eric, and don jr. and ivanka. sure, but that wasn t the best part of their case.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Ana Cabrera Reports 20240604 15:19:00

the judge issue even before the trial i think is an indication that this case mostly comes down to documents. you know, what we re interested in perhaps as viewers are the visuals of seeing these witnesses take the stand and seeing their cross examination, but mostly this case is about documents and what prosecutors love about documents is documents don t lie. documents don t forget. documents don t shade the truth. when you compare the numbers on these various properties with what the properties were actually valued at, it s very difficult to get around the fact that they were grossly exaggerated in their numbers. now, you know, there s room for interpretation in the math, and so i don t know that they get the full $370 million that they re seeking here. but when prosecutors ask for money, it isn t like an ordinary negotiation where i m going to come in and ask for 370 million, but what i really hope to get is only 100 million. if they re asking for 370 million, it s because they beli

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Transcripts for MSNBC Ana Cabrera Reports 20240604 15:36:00

license to evade the statute. the a.g. has not established any impact. it belies common sense and the a.g. relies on you. kise is saying almost the entire case put forth by the attorney general is outside of the stding at a podium directly in front of the judge using a large computer monitor for his notes and documents. he s referring to are being shown on a large tv screen to the gallery. the big monitor is right in front of the a.g. and trump is sitting up in the chair and listening pretty intently, excuse me, it s pretty cold out here. but i m actually interested to hear from barbara along with danny about the argument that s being made by chris kise in these closing arguments about how much of the case put forward by the a.g. is outside the statute of limitations and kind of what their sense is on that defense. so i think that is interesting, danny, because we

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