always in politics, but never like this. people that think the person they re working for or supporting is morally corrupt or dangerous and they believe that, they ll tell you that, then they stick with him or stick with him rhetorically in public. now, it s come to define most of the party. look at the races that are taking place this year. one of the litmus tests for the campaigns, especially if you want donald trump s endorsement, is do you believe what he was saying is true? that he is the rightly elected president of the united states. candidates are running on this. even if trump doesn t run, and i think he will run, the legacy live on. most republicans you see runing for often are more like donald trump than the ones from five years ago, the paul ryans and
democratic party, the democratic party left me. i have a question for matt. the book is fantastic, by the way. and where do you think the heart of the movement is? once trump is gone and that towering figure moves on, either is defeated or moves on after another term as president, is that limited government, free speech, three legs of the reagan stool movement just receding or is it still viable? thank you, dude. i m glad to hear you liked the book. i liked yours. i think when you look at the 100-year history, you realize that the right is not one thing. it s many things. and in fact when you take that broader view, the type of conservativism that you and i came of age in and joe did, the reagan conservativism, that may actually have been more of an aberration. i think there s no going back after trump. i think that even if trump doesn t run in 2024 or if he loses the nomination, we ve said it here on the show, desantis is