our dna. why don t we get a say in whether or not we re comfortal with this? the majority of us aren t and yet nothing has been done to protect the safety of these women. harris: spoken like a grown-up. the issue front and center in florida as well. state democrats there are tearing into a bill awaiting the governor s signature. your reaction to this situation. i just think it is incredibly sad. here we have a situation where yet again ideology is triumphing over what should be at the heart of these conversations, which is our humanity. i take the view that it is a good thing that people can be who they want to be, live how they want to live. that s important. that is about kindness and compassion and treating people with the respect that they deserve and treating them as human beings. at the same time we have to make sure that everyone feels safe and protected. that word you hear the whole time feeling safe. that applies to everybody. i think yet again you see the
appreciate you being with us. is evil triumph. triumphing are good men doing nothing. well, i think indeed. um. there is a triumph of evil when six people die in such a horrific way. and, of course, we ve had to face. challenges like this repeatedly. there is almost a danger of de sensitization. i think that there are people who are doing something but that we can do more. and i believe that. when you are faced with a challenge, you have to expect setbacks and failures, but you persevere. until you find better ways of solving the problem. um, i remember. when i was very young,
our lawmakers. of the words of the british statesman, edmund burke. all that is necessary. for evil. to triumph. is for good people. to do nothing. and chaplain barry black joins us now chaplain appreciate you being with us. is evil triumph. triumphing are good men doing nothing. well, i think indeed. um. there is a triumph of evil when six people die in such a horrific way and, of course, we ve had to face. challenges like this repeatedly. there is almost a danger of de sensitization. i think that there are people who are doing
and obstruct the investigations of trump crimes. the public needs to know all this. that s what we re going to exist. maybe even watching too many episodes because they ve been rewatching house of cards. big scandal. my imagination is very big when it comes to these things. when i see the worried, freeze going out of friends, i go down some very dark, very dark and deep holes here in terms of what that offense could look like how far will you guys go to but up against a row but these investigations. is it rebutting the stuff that comes out of these investigations? or is it focusing in on the people who are leading them and running them? it s both. but this is an offensive posture that we re taking here. we re calling it facts first. we all know, we are going to cross every t and dot every i and always summer faxon line. we know that miss this environment, facts although always triumphing. to be counter narratives.
a big shock to a lot of republicans who are going to have to run in the future, and saying maybe this is the time to cut our losses, cut donald trump from this party. michael, it is jonathan in washington, i want to keep talking about the good news that you are just talking about here about, we were all chilled by the threats of violence and the fear of violence on election day, and after election day. by and large, it did not materialize. thank goodness. what i am wondering is, is this or have we really begun the march back from the brink that our democracy was teetering on up until election day? i think that we have receded from the brink, i think that we should at least heed the sigh of relief tonight, and enjoy this evening, and say, you know, democracy is triumphing, and the good judgment of the american people is manifesting itself. but at the same time, jonathan,