election, he will try to get these folks some of these folks out here, he ll try to get these folks to react in potentially violent ways and i think in a deeply polarized country it s a scary, scary prospect. the day trump loses and i do think he ll lose, i agree, the day he loses, the next stage of his trouble making will begin. he has to recognize his brand is at stake. so he has 20 days left in the election but he has to realize if his brand is going to survive this election, he has to start doing some things, i think, to turn that element around, to turn that image around. i think it s too early to talk trump brand but i have to go back to what steve bannon told me yesterday, they believe they will win. tony? the brand and donald trump are dead. the brand is already dead. he s already getting way fewer people buying the products he sells and the brand will live with a small percentage.
people so i have my force so that i can, as i always have, declare victory even after a defeat and i think what you ll see is you will see him play to his base as he has been doing the last three weeks and he won t make one move in the direction of those people he needs to win. are you a bruce springsteen fan? i am, indeed. who doesn t love the boss. he said bruce springsteen came out in an interview and said trump will go nuclear, nuclear, if he loses. if he does lose come november 9, what does that look like? it s funny, at the very beginning when i said the prospect of donald trump as president was terrifying, i think the prospect of him losing is almost not quite but almost more terrifying because i think his need to build back his own sense of self-worth will make him willing to blow up democracy in any way that he can, meaning he ll dispute the
the reason why republicans lost is nobody was excited about the candidate. the fact is mitt romney had larger rallies, fact, than donald trump. that is false. but more important, if you want to go about rally size, that doesn t dictate turnout. you can look at the primary with bernie sanders turnout, huge rallies, you can look at huge rallies but it s about who gets their people to the polls and right now i have to disavow everybody, sorry, van, this enthusiasm misnomer. hillary clinton is winning in the polls when you talk about enthusiasm. because she doesn t have enthusiasm. i m going to shatter your whole hopes and dreams here by pointing out that i would probably rather go to a trump rally than a hillary clinton rally. but i would never vote for donald trump. why? because it s the entertainment factor, the electricity, you don t know what will happen. with hillary clinton you can watch it on c-span.
opposite challenges with her base. on the one hand you have people who may be overconfident and other people who may feel disappointed so she does have to, you re right, maintain the enthusiasm of her base some of this stuff could hurt her but listen if you could be hillary clinton or donald trump you d be hillary clinton every time tonight. i want to ask you to stick around, i have more. coming up next here from vegas, the target of the latest round of hacked dnc e-mails, hillary clinton s campaign chairman talks to cnn how he responded to an e-mail where he purportedly called senator bernie sanders a and i m quoting doofus. [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare?
i first said to him the news had come out that president obama s half brother who supports trump would be there as a trump invitee. and he said to me. oh, broo he said oh, into that s just an appetizer. and i said what do you mean? do you mean more women? and he said we won t have juanita broaddrick. i said of that same ilk? he said yes. i asked him why would you want to do this? he said to expose the sordid past of bill and hillary clinton and the final note i took away i said what if donald trump loses? there s been talk he wouldn t concede. right. this is when you jumped in and he said brooke, have you been to the rallies? have you seen the crowds mr. trump draws? he said his answer on november 9 was lock her up. he was repeating what the crowd behind us is saying. if kellyanne conway is on one side, steve bannon is on the other side. steve bannon would seem to be encouraging this talk of a rigged election. he said at one point during the