no one s asked me that before. um. i m tenacious, i m a. ..a bit adventurous. that s how i got into it to begin with. and i think the biggest piece of it was hoping that i had done something worth doing, and that it had made a difference. so the values behind the work were important to you, but on a day to day basis, you were having to deceive and to lie. are you good at that? and protect. she chuckles and i got rather good at it indeed. yes, ican. ican. i can prevaricate with the best of them. let me take you back to the beginning. you ve described entering the cia through a side entrance, by which i think you mean that you weren t sort of formally recruited. that s right. you sort of fell into it because you married a guy who, it turned out, just before your wedding, you learned was in the cia. wasn t there a movie or a book? something titled marrying the mob? there was a similarity, yeah. i didn t realise until shortly before we were getting married that my first husband h
um. i m tenacious, i m a. ..a bit adventurous. that s how i got into it to begin with. and i think the biggest piece of it was hoping that i had done something worth doing, and that it had made a difference. so the values behind the work were important to you, but on a day to day basis, you were having to deceive and to lie. are you good at that? and protect. she chuckles. and i got rather good at it indeed. yes, ican. ican. i can prevaricate with the best of them. let me take you back to the beginning. you ve described entering the cia through a side entrance, by which i think you mean that you weren t sort of formally recruited. that s right. you sort of fell into it because you married a guy who, it turned out, just before your wedding, you learned was in the cia. wasn t there a movie or a book? something titled marrying the mob? there was a similarity, yeah. i didn t realise until shortly before we were getting married that my first husband had an unusualjob. when he told
you would look at me and see a nice lady, probably very happy person, very outgoing. an older woman, who has a retired life and goes to church. but my life was not normal. it was a lie. everyone thought that i was just a mom. they never knew what i was actually doing because i lied to everyone about who i was. for almost 32 years. but i didn t do it for the thrill of it. i did it because i had to do it. october 1972, i became a widow. after that, i needed to work. i thought about it and i had spoken foreign languages. i had lived overseas and i had a masters degree. so, i decided to apply for cia. it wasn t that easy, though. they wanted to make me into a secretary. but i said, no, i really wanted to be a case officer. i really wanted to do covert operations. and eventually, i became a cia officers during the cold war. people today don t realize how serious the cold-war threat really was. i don t think it is an exaggeration that our survival was at stake. they were anti
..a bit adventurous. that s how i got into it to begin with. and i think the biggest piece of it was hoping that i had done something worth doing, and that it had made a difference. so the values behind the work were important to you, but on a day to day basis, you were having to deceive and to lie. are you good at that? and protect. she chuckles and i got rather good at it indeed. yes, ican. ican. i can prevaricate with the best of them. let me take you back to the beginning. you ve described entering the cia through a side entrance, by which i think you mean that you weren t sort of formally recruited. that s right. you sort of fell into it because you married a guy who, it turned out, just before your wedding, you learned was in the cia. wasn t there a movie or a book? something titled marrying the mob? there was a similarity, yeah. i didn t realise until shortly before we were getting married that my first husband had an unusualjob. when he told me about it, i had. i had
and that it had made a difference. so the values behind the work were important to you, but on a day to day basis, you were having to deceive and to lie. are you good at that? and protect. she chuckles and i got rather good at it indeed. yes, ican. ican. i can prevaricate with the best of them. let me take you back to the beginning. you ve described entering the cia through a side entrance, by which i think you mean that you weren t sort of formally recruited. that s right. you sort of fell into it because you married a guy who, it turned out, just before your wedding, you learned was in the cia. wasn t there a movie or a book? something titled marrying the mob? there was a similarity, yeah. i didn t realise until shortly before we were getting married that my first husband had an unusualjob. when he told me about it, i had. i had come from wichita, kansas. i was in europe. i was not full of information about what the cia even was. he said, you know, there will be a lot of t