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Transcripts for CNN The January 6th Indictment of Donald Trump 20240604 18:23:00

alienating to others. and you had a trump-sponsored elected candidates, arizona, michigan, wisconsin, and they were wiped out in 2022, and we are about to have a trial you are right. and i think that we will have a fast trial by jack smith, and i have been doing them for over 30 year, and trials have a way, and not the trial of the century, but of the millennium, and they have a way of crystallizing things. if the trump of his peers say, he is guilty and he did this, that is going to be sending a powerful message to the 61%. i m an optimist, but i see the 61%, and i am focused on the 40% who say, no. i think that there is a possibility, right? there is a possibility that the people will change their minds, but it has gone on for a lot of year now. the cake is baked. and people changing the minds,

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Transcripts for CNN The January 6th Indictment of Donald Trump 20240604 17:12:00

obviously that s a huge question here, the role they play, and the other thing bill barr said, he found the indictment impressive in its restrained, blue believes that jack smith has a lot more information. this is not just a legal aspect, but a political aspect. i am told we will hear donald trump speak today. where it is, we don t know. he s not a shy guy. he likes to speak. do you see this case, george, going to trial before the election? i hope so, and i think it s quite possible. i think that s the reason why you don t see other defendants here. it always becomes more complicated when you have more co-defendants and more lawyers. every lawyer gets to cross-examine. the jury has to keep track of the evidence against each defendant.

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Transcripts for CNN The January 6th Indictment of Donald Trump 20240604 18:24:00

because of this one trial. you know, it is hard. and let me get jamil jaffer into this. i wish i could, but i don t see it happening. i think that the trial actually solidifies donald trump s base. it is go to turn out the trump voter, and biden voters are going to be tired and watched this thing for years and the biden is struggling, and i think that the more indictments, the more likely he is to be the republican nominee, which is crazy, and the more likely to be the nominee, but less likely to be elected. this is like when jamil went to give the democracy speech, and it was not a close call, but it was a wipeout electorally, and 61% is a big, you know this,

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Transcripts for CNN The January 6th Indictment of Donald Trump 20240604 17:10:00

there will be more arguments that will be launched at trial. the problem is they don t have the facts or the law on side, and jack smith and his team are just as ferocious. still, it will be a legal battle for the ages. what s the other argument? one argument is i was just listening to my lawyers, you know, this is the advice they gave me. this is what barr was talking about last night. what s the other argument? gloria, they re also going to say, and we always heard this, donald trump genuinely believed this. you may disagree with it, but he believed it. we heard lauro say somebody tried to prove he didn t believe it. jack smith will dodd that. he has laid out all the reasons that donald trump confessed privately, he knew he lost the election. so you ll see a very ferocious

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Transcripts for CNN The January 6th Indictment of Donald Trump 20240604 18:43:00

is headed to washington for ta that talking tab rigged election, and then he said unfair venue, and unfair judge. are you comfortable with him already making commentary about the judge in this case at this time? well, i think it is consistent with who donald trump is. he expresses himself, and if i were his lawyer, i would be advising against it, but i am not his lawyer, and i am sure that many of to lawyers have been frustrating over time. i do think that there is going to be a motion to change venue, and maybe even a motion to strike the judge. we will see how the motions go. it is up to the judge who donald trump is tweeting about to make that decision. that is not a decision that can be appealed before a trial. so, i think that d.c., you know, having voted against trump, and maybe trump got 10% or maybe

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