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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20171205:15:53:00

so what are the arguments now for and against phillips, the bakery owner? creating the cake is speech. and it s also compelled speech in violation of the free exercise clause. forcing him to take a position adverse to his own religious beliefs. if you re the state of colorado or the couple, the argument is simple. this is not speech. if it is speech, it s the speech of the couple buying the cake. and not the cake maker who put this fondant and the icing on the cake. he s only providing a service so there s no need to discuss his free speech right. timeline for this to my understanding, the arguments are happening now. when could we see some kind of a decision? it s hard to say. it s always hard to say. unlike the travel ban which is going to be moved with some expediency, this is something that s just going to take its time in the supreme court. while i have you, while we re talking supreme court.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20171205:15:04:00

media market. it just happens to be four days before the special election. hallie? gabe, there s a lot to talk about. thank you for that reporting including the comment from the person representing roy moore that there are a lot of nonaccusers that have accused him of nothing. we ll get to that in a second, but we also want to talk about what is set to happen in about 12 minutes here. and an announcement from john conyers is expected to come on detroit radio. he s giving an interview after coming under house leadership to resign after claims that he denied of sexual the new york t finish out his term but no more. garrett haake is on the hill behind me. listen, democrats have not minced words the last few days. every member of leadership said they want conyers to step down. talk about this decision playing out on the hill. reporter: not well, hallie. that s the short answer. every member of leadership on the democratic side, the speaker of the house and a number of other members, es

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20171205:15:06:00

to relieve that pressure for him to step aside. garrett, quickly, we ll show for sure in ten minutes, but we still haven t heard from conyers himself. until conyers makes the decision himself, we can t speculate. one of his relatives is speaking to the new york times and saying we think he s going to end up resigning at the end of his term, right? reporter: right. and it s a grand nephew who, by the way, in that new york times story says he may seek the seat himself, not a great look for democrats to have it look like this has been sort of neptisticly handed down like a royal title. so again, i don t think anything that we re going to see short of a resignation on the spot in this interview today is going to be enough to satisfy democrats and republicans who want to see conyers step down for the good of the institution. garrett, another busy morning for you. i ll ask you to come back when we hear more from conyers and wait for paul ryans press

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20171205:15:08:00

endorse him in vent days. the rnc is going back in on a financial basis. senator mcconnell hasn t specifically retracted any of his previous statements, but he s not out there saying that roy moore should not be in this position. let the voters decide. it was a softer pedal. and senator hatch defended president trump s decision to reendorse him to say he s the republican and all we ve got. so there s a real shift there after allegations arose that he should step down. we have been reporting on this and they spent a lot of time hammering the democratic members of congress to return nominations for hard voovey weinstein. why is this different? both parties concluded that voters are not paying attention to this issue. but that s not true, they are paying attention to this issue. or they are willing to overlook it to play to party politics. i don t know if they are overlooking it or calling you look at voters in alabama, they

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20171205:15:54:00

let s talk this new travel ban decision that has come down that the white house frankly sees as a win for them. essentially this new order temporarily lets enforcement of restricted travel rules for foreign nationals, chad, iran, libya, somalia, yemen. what s interesting to me and i ve heard pete williams talk about this as well as he s been reporting on this. only two of the justices said those lower court injunctions should stay. is that a case of how they ll rule on the merits here? definitely. you can take that as a forecast of where the justices will go. the two justices, i believe, are ginsburg and sotomayor. and they apine they would not have gone that direction. you know, this case is confusing procedurally. but substantively, it s whether the travel ban is constitutional or violates federal law. what we re all trying to unravel and the supreme court attempted to give some uniformity to is the all these lower court

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