Said that he had had a conversation with mr. Mulvaney and this meaning investigations is what was required in order to get a meeting. Vindman asked, did he explain what the investigations were that were immediate needed . Vindman replied, he was talking about the 2016 elections and an investigation into the bidens and burisma. This was in the leadup to the infamous july 25th phone call between President Trump and ukrainian president zelensky when trump continued to press that case. Questioner, was there any doubt in your mind as to what the president , our president , was asking for as a deliverable . Vindman, there was no doubt. President trumps former russia adviser dr. Fiona hill says her boss then National Security add vidor john boltoned to her to stay away from President Trump personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani who was running something of a Shadow Campaign in ukraine. Cnn National Security reporter kylie atwood joins me. Kylie, start with the testimony from Lieutenant Colonel vindman
House. There are senators on both sides of the aisle who, to me, are not giving the appearance of and the reality of judging this in an impartial way. I am open to witnesses. Collins, though, said she does agree with mcconnell on at least one point, that it would be premature to decide which witnesses to call until senators see the evidence first. And with grsds preparing to return from their holiday break lingering questions remain about what a senate trial would look like. Reports indicate there has been no progress breaking that stalemate over calling potential witnesses including some of the president s inner circle. Today schumer seized on a new report to make the case for a robust trial. The website just security, thats a blog associated with the nyu school of law says it has viewed unredacted copies of previously blacked out emails released earlier this month between the white house and pentagon over that hold on aid to ukraine. In one of those emails from Michael Duffy to a pen