after it s vetted for personal information, we plan to make all of the evidence publicly available. i mean, it is clear that you were light years ahead of doj. and we know that, because we know what donald trump and his cronies look like when they re under investigation. we all watched it, watched rudy giuliani throw sand in the gears. we watched them leak when they came out. we know they weren t. do you believe that they now are ? i mean, do you believe that they are moving more quickly because of the evidence that you all put into the public arena? well, i think, some of our excellent staff and attorneys believe, many of them have a background in the department of justice, that the information that we uncovered did play a role in opening eyes at the doj, but that s just speculation, we don t know. i do think, the fact that the special counsel has been approved, i think it s significant. i m not speaking as a january
point, i m trying to understand iran s thinking in all this. why are they doing it? is it because they really think it s in their best interest to cozy up to russia, which is by all estimates losing this war? is it to throw salt in our face, throw sand if n our face and think it s going to help with the biden administration that s laid down for them when it comes to the iran nuclear deal? todd, joe biden create add moment of danger and global disarray for us right now. he seems incapable of distinguishing between allies and enemies, and it s well over time for joe biden to walk away from the jcp oea failed iran venothat talks and we speak and there s five weeks of protesters demanding basic human rights and joe biden gives lip service to the iranen people and says he stands with the iranian people
have integrity. they re not dumb. bill tataylor s testimony was devastating. all of that. that s why you see them pulling stunts like going into the hearing room and tying everything up for five hours, because there s no way to attack the substance of what s going on, right? they re arguing about process. they re arguing about bringing it out in the open. all of those theatrical stuff. they know the goods, the substance here, the sort of stuff that bill taylor testified about, that is going very, very badly. so they re worried. the equivalent when you don t have substance, you put the tape the equivalent is storm the skiff. cause a lot of noise, throw sand in the air. they re looking at the opinion polls. they re worried about all of the other names but i m not going to i wouldn t look for them to publicly defy the president until they bring it in a little further. what this is all about is political. if you look at the public polling. quinnipiac shows 55% approve.
looks at an obstructionist view. he asked the oath of loyalty he asked from comey, seeing if he could let the flynn thing go and the firing of james comey. when you talk about criminal investigations you have to go to a state of mind. this gets further and further into the president s state of mind at the time. he s doing everything he can to you know, throw sand in the eyes of any investigators in this instance. well, caroline, you say piece of the puzzle. i was thinking of the old polaroid thing where you would buy the print and it would come into appearance. this is coming into appearance as obstruction. an interview with the new york times income july of last year, the president said sessions should not have recused himself and he wouldn t have appointed him in the first place if he had known he would. here he goes. sessions gets the job. right after he gets the job, he recuses himself. was that a mistake? well, sessions should have never recused himself.
relationship to the special counsel. who is controlling it at this point? president trump is controlling it. we know president trump keeps his own counsel at the end of the day. there has been a divide in his legal team for many months now. cooperate with the special counsel, we have nothing to hide, we ll get this over with and end the investigation. there are others on the legal team that wanted to take a more confrontational approach, undermine the investigation, throw sand in the gears, don t just cooperate with them, don t do anything illegal. we can tie them up for years. it seems like the president has increasingly moved through the latter view. giuliani represents that. what s notable is lawyers exist to clean up messes for his client. there was the issue of obstruction of justice of justice, of questions raised