Welcome to hardtalk, im stephen sackur. Notjust in the United States but across the world, the black lives Matter Movement has prompted debate about race, identity and power. It is a campaign predicated on ideas about what it means to be black and white. But what if those very terms are themselves part of the problem . My guest, Thomas Chatterton williams, one is a mixed race american writer, a self declared ex black man, whose ideas present a challenge to so called woke culture. And how much room is there right now for respectful, thoughtful debate . Thomas Chatterton Williams in paris, welcome to hardtalk. Thanks for having me. Well, its a pleasure to have you on the show. Thomas, i think we need to begin with a little bit of your personal story. You were born in the United States to a black father and a white mother. Im just wondering how, as a child now that you have had many, many years to reflect on it how did you forge your own sense of identity, coming from a mixed race family
Its hardtalk with stephen sackur. Welcome to hardtalk, im stephen sackur. Notjust in the United States but across the world, the black lives Matter Movement has prompted debate about race, identity and power. It is a campaign predicated on ideas about what it means to be black and white. But what if those very terms are themselves part of the problem . My guest, Thomas Chatterton williams, one is a mixed race american writer, a self declared ex black man, whose ideas present a challenge to so called woke culture. And how much room is there right now for respectful, thoughtful debate . Thomas Chatterton Williams in paris, welcome to hardtalk. Thanks for having me. Well, its a pleasure to have you on the show. Thomas, i think we need to begin with a little bit of your personal story. You were born in the United States to a black father and a white mother. Im just wondering how, as a child now that you have had many, many years to reflect on it how did you forge your own sense of identity
Just after half past four in the morning, it is time for hardtalk. Welcome to hardtalk, im stephen sackur. Notjust in the United States but across the world, the black lives Matter Movement has prompted debate about race, identity and power. It is a campaign predicated on ideas about what it means to be black and white. But what if those very terms are themselves part of the problem . My guest, Thomas Chatterton williams, one is a mixed race american writer, a self declared ex black man, whose ideas present a challenge to so called woke culture. And how much room is there right now for respectful, thoughtful debate . Thomas Chatterton Williams in paris, welcome to hardtalk. Thanks for having me. Well, its a pleasure to have you on the show. Thomas, i think we need to begin with a little bit of your personal story. You were born in the United States to a black father and a white mother. Im just wondering how, as a child now that you have had many, many years to reflect on it how did you
To push socalled politically correct narratives under the guise of objective, unbiased reporting. So theas question for today is, has the socalled fourth estate, the institution of that largelyr is responsible for checking the government, for providing information to its citizenry and so on fallen prey to a rising pressure from the woke or the pressure to be woke . Today batya ungarsargon the deputy Senior Editor at newsweek said yes. She has a. Forthcoming book. Its are great cover. I know were not supposed to judge books by the covers but this is a great cover. Its called bad news how woke media is undermining democracy. She chronicles the radical shift in american journalism over the last few years and what it means for democracy as a whole. Im looking forward to explaining this and to help me a number of guest. First batya ungarsargon is the Deputy Editor of newsweek. Before that she was the opinion editor of the largest jewish media outlet in merrick and she has written extensivel
The socalled institutionon thas largely responsible for checking the government provide information toto the citizenry d so on fallen prey to a rising pressure from the woke, or the pressure to be woke . Today batyaya ungarsargon, the deputy opinion editor at newsweek says yes. Just a y forthcoming book. Its a great cover. I know were not supposed to judgeo books by its cover but this is a great cover called bad news how woke media is undermining democracy. She chronicles the radical shift in american journalism over the last few years and what it means for democracy asea a whole. Im looking forward to explaining this with everyone today, and to helpe me do that a number of guests. First batya isr of newsweek. If or that she was the opinion editor of the largest jewish media outlet in america and shes written for places like the New York Times, washington post, Foreign Policy to name a few. She also holds a phd from the university of california at berkeley and when a book comes out in