We have deputies on the way, okay . Thank you. Youre welcome. Chilling 911 calls released after the shooting of an ohio family. He spent more than a week in the hospital after being shot on the job. Tonight, 19yearold volunteer firefighter, kevin swain, is back home with his family. Fellow volunteers by his side as he left the hospital. Darcy spencer has more on how hes doing tonight. Reporter volunteer firefighter, kevin swain, is wheeled outside the hospital eight days after being shot on an emergency call. He was smiling and shaking hands as he went to a fire engine for its got to be the brightest point for us at the end of a trying week. Firefighters were called to a home to check on a man. The homeowner opened fire when firefighters forced their way in, apparently believing someone was trying to break in. One firefighter died. Swain was 19 years old, shot four times. He needed a little help as he climbed into the front seat of the engine. For public safety, a line of duty death is
Significant numbers actually. So, all of you, thank you. Senator cornyn, i do think and i believe you mentioned it miss mcdonald that the ability to have people in prison begin to work before theyre released has real potential. Maybe mr. Tollman you mentioned it. I do think that can work. My observation over the years of attempts to have education and other kind of characterbuilding programs in prison before theyre released doesnt seem to have much benefit. Do you agree with that, miss mcdonald . Its very hard to find a excuse me. Its hard to find a current or a released prisoner who has not been offered programs galore. They do exist in prisons, but i think work gives a sense of selfesteem and is the best training for reentry that weve got. The risk assessment, the cognitive therapy, thats already being done. And im afraid that the judgment that was reached in the 1970s, which is that its very hard to find a Therapeutic Program that reduces recidivism significantly remains the case, a
Paul. And that is on the Violent Crime side, we tend to have a lower crime rate than a lot of other states while at the same time keeping our incarceration rate lower by using more probation and using more treatment options. So thats why im a fan of the work thats been done here. And my first question is really along those lines of drug courts. Ive led some. Efforts here on drug courts and getting funding for drug courts carrying on the work of many that came before me, including ted kennedy and jim ram stead over on the house side. When we look at what this bill might save, we know that drug courts save money. And we know that getting some of the nonviolent offenders out of the prisons will save money or reducing their sentences. Do you think we could use some of this money to pay for things like drug courts ms. Yates, do you think that will be helpful as we look at how we are going to make up for the fact that we are going to be bringing people out of prison. But they not only need R
I would point out that in a number of these states, for example, georgia North Carolina experienced after the implementation of their Reentry Program something modelled after the corrections act, they saw a 19. 3 reduction in recidivism. Other states, 10 in georgia, 9. 4 , right right. I think rather than take this as a matter of faith or perhaps expressing our hopes and best wishes, we actually have some real results we can point to that demonstrate the workability of some of these programs. I dont think theres as much disagreement as it may look at first. For the people who will revus to avail themselves of the opportunity to get an education, deal with their drug and alcohol problem and the like, incarceration undoubtedly works. But for those people who will come out, it strikes me as just common sense to try to help equip them so they can cope with a productive life as opposed to being in the turnstyle and going back and forth. I appreciate the important contribution that your orga
Senatorgrassley whitehouse. Whitehouse let me thank you for your chairmanship of this process. You brought very distinctive use of your own, and youve facilitated all of us coming together in making this happen. I also want to mention, although he is not here today, the graham brought Magic Springs is a military prosecutor. Thanks to both of them. The department of justice as we work through complicated issues. Anator feinstein asked question about making sure when , the unitedas made states attorneys would not let the balls fall through the cracks and ignore the responsibilities. Wewant to make sure that sure her we are very keenly aware that takes place. We are more confident that she is that something would be developed to put into place. I delighted to work with her and with you to make sure that asething that codifies that long as it is not creating unnecessary bureaucracy and delay becomes a part of this bill. We look forward to working with you to nail that last piece down. Areg