as they are incentivized to come up to the border. the cubans, haitians, nicaraguans and venezuelans say they have an app. everything has worked so well forw the immigration and border patrol. the number of people we have. the managing of this border, there is no system really that is functioning. this is all about literally theater, an insult and going to create more of a rush to come in especially still with title 42 being an issue still. the nature of disease, what s happening with ebola in certain countries now. covid, etc. harris: you re reading about that, too. you don t want to make everything a pandemic but that s something that we have seen that is really rigid on certain continents. we need to be aware since 150 countries are sending people here. the countries aren t but people
are trying to come here. it s like one disease where the nature you can maintain viral dynamics and pathogens because you have maintaining of some level of border security. when all of that is destroyed and people are moving through en masse you have things like ebola, the plague and covid that suddenly are moving through that normally never would because they would be staying dormant within their borders. harris: two things that stood out to me. i think he misspoke. title 8 and 9 are different. i hope he knows the difference. title viii is something other presidents has looked at. you can always use eight. they could have been using it now. they didn t want to do that. the republicans now, because of what s going on in the house.
, and i m sure dr. nicole can speak to this, as well. the flu season is average like it was before the pandemic, not this monster thing that has been reported. beyond that, it s not just covid. we had this before. zika, measles, tuberculosis, the plague. a whole host of other things. where we are most in danger is where we were in the summer-fall of 2019 where we don t know what s happening. we are prepared for these things, we have tests, we know where to look. the question becomes, what don t we know? we didn t know about zika and that was and is a horrible thing that now has moved from south america up into america, affecting fetuses and affecting children, deforming remember, it affected the head of the little babies. horrible things going on. the plague is out there. it always exists, and we can deal with it. but that is what title 42 was for. and it s not just a surge that s going to happen and is happening
by the way paul whelan is still sitting there. russia will take another american when they want a concession. there is no downside, all upside. harris: we re thankful griner has come home. we pray whelan can sustain and his family can be in contact as much as they need to and keep in prayer for all of there where something comes about and we can bring him home he can sustain until then. appreciate you going on focus. the white house is trying to avoid the twitter drama like the plague. ducking and dodging questions over the biden campaign telling executives about hunter biden s laptop story trying to keep it censored off of twitter and this. a tragic number of agent suicides among our border patrol at our southern border.