constitutional grounds for presidential impeachment. the report focuses on what the constitution says about impea impeachme impeachment. the star first produced a report during nixon s impeachment process and elizabeth holtzman is a former u.s. representative and from new york who voted for impeachment during watergate. there are to that and also author of the hard cover book the case for impeaching trump. congresswoman, thank you for being here. thank you. what is the purpose of a report like this? the committee s report is something that is really central here and the american people should pay some attention to it, because you can t just say the president committed impeachable offenses. what does the constitution say is an impeachable offense? you can t say somebody committed robbery without knowing what the robbery statute is. the constitution sets this out. members of congress should be aware of it, the american people
and two people who have been closely following the impeachment process. msnbc contributor and elizabeth who sat on the house judiciary committee during the watergate impeaches, and author of the case for impeaching trump. you know there s two stories that have been going forward with over the last month or two. there s the story of the whistleblower complaint that became the impeachment inquiry which will likely be the impeachment over the extortion of ukraine and the two intersect. their activities in ukraine and furthering the president s extortion plot are part of what they re indicted for. how much do you see these two roads crossing? extensively given these two men were essentially acting as intermediaries between rudy giuliani and the president.
here s how adam schiff wrapped up the hearings this week. the difference between then and now is not the difference between nixon and trump. it s the difference between that congress and this one. so we are asking where is howard baker? where is howard baker? where are the people who are willing to go beyond their party to look to their duty? with me now someone well-versed in the impeachment probe against president nixon. elizabeth holtzman wrote the book the case for impeaching trump. thank you for being here. thank you. given what we just heard from chairman schiff, what have we learned about this country and the state of politics today from everything we saw this week? well, i saw most of the
the house judiciary committee will consider what articles of impeachment to draft against president trump. i want to bring in nbc news justice correspondent pete williams and elizabeth holtman who voted to impeach president richard nixon when she served on the house judiciary committee. she is the author of the case for impeaching trump. pete, let me start with you. the house, in theory, then votes on it. and if they vote, it s a simple majority required in favor of impeachment. the president is impeached. but what does that mean? it simply means that he s been charged by congress with an impeachable offense and then there would be a trial in the senate on whether to convict the president. if that that s a simple majority in the house to impeach. the senate conviction would require a two-thirds vote of all those senators present. and if that were to happen, then the president would immediately be removed from office. the vice president would take over. and then someone else wou
that s a huge legal problem for him if doing that. if he s lobbying. he says he s not lobbying on behalf of foreign ent sties yet he s traveling the world and communicating and as a liaison has been reported for a lot of foreign officials, and with the u.s. government. so what exactly the means of that are and what the law is around that is something that rudy giuliani will probably have to answer for at some point. yesterday he said he doesn t need a criminal lawyer right now. a lot of people saying he should get legal help. congressman, you mentioned you ve been through impeachment proceedings before and voted for it. how would you rate this white house strategy compared to how the nixon white house dealt with this? first of all i wrote a book call the case for impeaching trump viewers might want to read it to get a better insight. there are a lot of similarities. number one, the cover-up is a similarity. number two, the basically