have introduced a destabilizing element that could be replicated in tit for tat politics for years to come. would you agree with that? do you have a different take, john? what do you think? trace, generally i do agree with jonathan turley when it comes to analyzing impeachments and efforts to go against president trump. i don t agree with him on 95% of other things. on this one i think he s right. president trump s critics have taking the step of trying to use the court system to knock him out of the ballot. you just talked about some of the efforts like the disqualification argument or the 14th amendment. prosecutions and state courts in new york and georgia. the real threat to president trump is the special counsel prosecution being brought by the biden justice department and where we re going to hear president trump s appeals arguments to the d.c. circuit where he s going to claim that he and other presidents will have general immunity from
i m just representing a client. i m ensuring that justice is done in this case. president trump is everybody titled to hist day in court an he ll get it. do innocent people attack prosecutors? this is a political campaign right now. this prosecution was instituted by president biden and in the middle of that campaign people are going to speak out. my role is not to address anything about prosecutors, but i will say this, there has been a history in the justice department of rogue prosecutions. they went after arthur anderson, a major accounting firm.co destroyed the company. and the doj lost 9-0. they went after the former governor of virginia in a prosecution, republican governor who was convicted unfairly, reversed 9-0 and now the justice department, the biden justice department is going after a former president for aktsz that
criticize him without alienating his supporters. ron desantis has been resetting his campaign by letting staffers go, refocusing his messaging. this is what he had to say recently about the 2024 general election. listen. a we need the 2024 election to be a referendum on biden s policies and our vision for a better america. if that is what voters are going into the voting booth thinking, particularly if i m the candidate, we are going to win. if the election becomes a referendum on what document was left by the toilet at mar-a-lago, we are not going to win. alex, what do you think about his logic? this is ron desantis trying to thread that needle. he still is critical of these indictments. he s criticized the biden justice department. but he s really trying to make
whether or not donald trump would listen to said advice, separate conversation. what s your gut? what are we going to hear? i think we re going to hear a lot of anger and rage that the same week the justice department, the biden justice department is trying to give blanket immunity to the president s son, they re trying to throw your favorite president in jail or even more made-up stuff. that s likely what you re about to hear. they re going to clap. that s what most of these republicans in the room believes. it puts the other candidates in an interesting box whether they should deal with it at all, all they should handle it and, of course, iowa, for him, if he wins by a substantial margin, his campaign believes they could win early. maintaining that big lead and winning it early and never get it down to a two-person race is the name of the game. his campaign thinks they have such a high floor that he s going to be real tough to beat
they believe all is true. there s a reason for that and it s because how republicans have come to view this in light of their overall mistrust of the biden justice department. lets me turn to a the lincoln dinner where a slew of 2024 contenders are speaking. how do the other candidates like desantis need to handle these latest charges? do you think they ll even raise i m not sure. i m not sure there s any way to handle it. look, the primary to me right now half or a little more than half of the party wants to do trump and everybody else wants to do something else and that s fragmented. but until half or more than half of the party decides, okay, we can t do trump anymore, there s not a ton you can do about it. i m not sure there s a tv ad or a speech you could make that would change someone s mind. what these candidates can do is put themselves in position to possibly pick up the pieces if