done. this is a prosecution witness, megyn. it s going to hurt them hard. i agree with mark, arthur. the prosecution way to go megyn. his relevant testimony is what he said moments after he got there and got interviewed by the cops. before he understood that he was going to be looked at as a snitch and that there was a race thing and that there was an issue of cops versus a local, freddie gray and so on the initial testimony was and it s on tape we re told, that it sounded like he was trying to hurt himself, he bangds his head repeatedly and he believed he was in the van with a mad man. the prosecutor is not relying on that. but the defense will. right. but the they re calling him, arthur. of course they should call him. that s what you do when you have a witness that hurts you and you have the opportunity to put him on first. you deflate the balloon. you pop it yourself before anyone else does. what they re going to say, meg meggin they may say don t
that s her defense. she comes out and says i was trying to settle the city and my words calmed the city. but the question is is that the prosecutor s job to calm down the city with charges or statements to the community? or is that the mayor s job? is that the police commissioner s job? the dea is.a. should be seen as a honest broker who seeks justice period. no matter what justice winds up being even if it s i need to dismiss these charges. i couldn t have said it better myself megyn. looking for justice is what a prosecutor is supposed to do. a prosecutor a judged by how they prosecute. that s what the bottom line is. so those that maven gauged in the rioting or the looting, did she prosecute those people, did she bring them to justice? her office has prosecuted every single person that they could. no they haven t.
attention to things like that. yet, she stirred them up into believing that if no conviction is reached in this case their moment has somehow been lost. well, here s the thing, megyn. i believe in the jury system and law and justice. i do believe that these cops will get a fair trial. baltimore has over 600,000 residents, right? so the fact that assume that marilyn mosby managed to poison all of those residents. it seems hard to believe. it s a smaller jury pool than that though. it is a smaller jury pool. people work people can t come. the criminal justice system works itself out. in the george zimmerman trial, clearly the public opinion was on trayvon s side. george got acquitted by a jury. in the o.j. simpson, the jury looked at the evidence and made a determination. that was jury nullification, according to our last panel. i m saying according to the last panel. that s their opinion. i think the argument richard do you believe
moment. they claim mosby aligned herself with the protesters and demonstrators and should be recused. megyn? trace, thank you. as we mentioned these six baltimore police officers face a variety of charges, assault, up to manslaughter and even second-degree murder. but some of these cops were only with freddie gray for the initial arrest. one did not see him until he was almost at the police station. and another drove the police van. how do we get to second degree murder and man slautslaughter. we have a criminal defense attorney and former prosecutor. let s group these guys into categories. it starts with the three who arrested him. you ve got lieutenant brian rice garrett miller and edward nero. these three guys were involved in the initial spotting of freddie gray brian rice chased freddie gray and miller and nero physically placed him under
them. so if there s actually an acquittal or a hung jury there will be retribution for the jury. why don t we think a little bit about the jurors. mark, you should be ashamed of yourself to make the assertions. let s not get personal. on the other hand if there is a conviction if there s an acquittal in a jurisdiction outside of baltimore, will that be accepted by the community if it gets removed and then there s an acquittal, will the community of baltimore accept it? no. there are all sorts of questions but the judge is going to make the right decision on this. great to see you both. thanks megyn. after everyone criticized this police force, the crime rate in baltimore soared. now the mayor has just fired the commissioner. but is all the blame really on him? the head of a baltimore police group, a key baltimore police group is with us next. i think that his recent