congress expects or wants them to go. so i think i don t think this tension is going away, especially because the committee is trying to wrap up its work, in the summer, but i think you re going to see essentially parallel courses going through this process. i think you re going to see more and more indications that the justice department is looking into some of these things that are of concern to the committee, that are of concern to the public, but they re gonna do it at their own pace. and i don t think the criticism that it s not fast enough, i think the criticism will stay there, but obviously, this indication is a big step forward in a lot of people s minds and the direction they want it to see the justice department going. devlin, great reporting from you on your team. thanks for joining us tonight, devlin barrett is the washington post correspondent covering this. congratulations on the scoop, by the way. thanks ali. when we come back, russia is
refusing orders, so might be sabotaging their own equipment. there was one report of shootings on their own aircraft. my question to you, do you understand where the dynamic is going on amongst russian forces? does the pentagon believe this is happening on a wide scale, or is this something that is largely very specific and isolated? i cannot confirm every item in that british report about shooting down aircraft and everything they put in their. that said, ali, we have seen poor unit coalition, morale, poor leadership. we have plenty of anecdotal evidence that at times in a places, russian soldiers have simply given up, they simply walked away from the fight. that they, in some cases, sabotage their own vehicle so that they would run out of fuel and not be able to replace that feel. we know that they have had morale and cohesion problems.
do, just as admiral kirby described, he will figure out how to regroup and adapt, how to double down in many respects, to still try and see if his original goals are salvageable. putin has put together a contingency plan if he knows things go wrong, he will not be thinking, how he can pull things right, or how he can reapply himself or the russian military at the task at hand. doctor hill, we are always appreciative of your time. fiona hill is the former white house adviser on russia, and the author of a remarkably important book called, there s nothing for you here, funding opportunity in the 21st century. doctor hill, thank you for a time. thank you so much, ali. up next, we will be joined by one of the reporters that broke a story that the justice department is expanding the number of people it is
conference tomorrow. so how should we be looking at them. our next guest, fiona hill, was a key witness in president trump s first impeachment trial, the trial about trump withholding military aid at a white house meeting with president zelenskyy in an effort to extort ukraine into announcing a face fake investigation into trump s political opponent, joe biden. fiona hill also advised each of the past three presidents, george w. bush, barack obama, and donald trump, on u.s. russia relations. and i have a ton of questions for her. thankfully, she joins us now. fiona hill is the former white house adviser on russia. she s the author of there is nothing for you here, finding opportunity in the 21st century. doctor hill, thank you for joining us tonight. it s good to see you again. likewise, ali, good to see you too. there is an independent pollster in russia, beloved a center, that released a poll
airstrikes are actually emanating and never coming the aircraft are never leaving russian airspace or belarusian airspace. they are not venturing in to the ukrainian airspace and if they do, they don t stay long. of, course a lot of the airstrikes are missile strikes. they re being watched from air fields and insides inside russia or belarus. the ukrainians have been very effective in how they are trying to defend their skies. we assess that the skies are contested. here s the other thing, we re also working with other allies and partners who have long range air defense systems that we know the ukrainians know how to use, like the s-300, and we try to work with them to see if they can provide some of those systems to help replenish the stocks of ukrainians. admiral, to the extent that russia has said and might be really refocusing some of its efforts on eastern ukraine, which is where this all started, what are your concerns about that? this is an area that has been a hot water