Us. and a quick reminder, katelyn s guest at the top of the hour is abby lowell. the naming of a special council in the hunter biden probe. and what it could signal aere about prospects of a trial. we ll take that up next. that interview will be fascinating. breaking news out of maui. the death toll climbing steeply. new images from the scene we will bring you along with new reporting. at what may have been missed opportunities to prevent this growing tragedy. i remember when i first started flying, and we would experience turbulence. i would watch the flight attendants. if they re not nervous, then i m not going to be nervous. financially, i m the flight attendant in that situation.