much, but fox, and their adult they know how to do this, if they would just tell our viewers the truth about what actually happened in the 202 election, that s what we r after. they still have the opportunit to do that, the positions we asked them why they won t do that, they said, it s old news now. which is ironic. but, it is what it is. i mean, not much indication that we re gonna suddenl change an editorial track on that one last night, said that fox gave a press statement in which he said foxes as mid to telling lies when does fox admit to telling lies i haven t heard them say that, and frankly as that. they conceded the judge ruling, which ruled that the were telling lies, and honestly, they also conceded that all th court filings that came out in january and february we put in evidence, your request for a mission, where they admitted to most of the lies and then when it came time for them to oppose our - we re not going to opposes
lose this case, so they have the pay almost $800 million. you re exactly right, joe it should be hard to win a defamation case. you have to prove if you re public figure, you had to prov that the defamer knew that wha they were publishing was false or recklessly disregarded th truth. you had to do that wit arguments, and typically you don t get documents like thi in defamation cases. it s hard, because we want our free press to have the freedom to report and make mistakes, but this case wasn t about mistakes this case was about deliberate deception over and over an over and over again. fox knew, and fox knew that. that s why fox pay $785 millio to settle the case they knew that they were on th hook given the evidence of their deliberate lies. coming up, i sat down wit former president bill clinton, we talked about how to address the spike in gun violence. my exclusive interview with ou former president, next
letting all this discovery spill out into the open, to se all the evidence that worked against them, and then just to settle in the end when the could ve spread themselves som of that embarrassment. on the other side of this case are you surprised if they le it go on as long as they did i m very surprised, to an extent but look, i know some people are disappointed that there not gonna be a trial, but we had to look at is what dominio did. dominion did not settle this case last year to many major these document got out of the public record hundreds and hundreds of these documents approved just what fox is doing behind the scenes behind closed doors, when they were broadcasting these lies t all of us. i think that s an importan part of, they need to remember that, doing it live throug that mh of these documents got out there and only at th courthouse stops - willing to settle after gettin the truth out. i m looking at this list of other lawsuits dominion ha outstanding cindy powel
murdoch up on the stan admitting that he could have stopped us and that he kne what was going on. he s gonna say he had no idea. the house are gonna say he had an open mind, so they though this could be true, and joe, your lawyer, you know how this works, or one had to come in there with the documents and prove that they were lying ove and over again when they claimed they had an open min it did know what the truth was those documents are out there. you re absolutely right, w can t make fox news report o those. we can make fox news report on the trial, even if it happened go ahead, sorry. couldn t you hold of her an apology though i think that surprised a lo of people. the expected fox to have t issue an apology for causing such a grievous harm not only to the company, but also to its employees and many would argue, to american democracy. i agree with everything you just said, i think the apology is a little bit the wrong thin to be asking for what we want it is the truth t get o
it s definitely bittersweet it accomplish the goal, katie, when we talk about an apology, getting an apology for a settlement, you know this having been a trial lawyer an apology forced to a settlement is hollow it s pretty meaningless. so that was not, at least in m view, an important part of this even if you got fox to make th apology once on each of thei shows, i don t think tha would ve changed very much o anything for fox viewers what fox viewers need to see i the truth over and over agai on major news, like th election in 2020 we couldn t force that through a lawsuit. if we had won the lawsuit at the end of the day and gotten massive judgment, fox didn t have to cover its. the court wasn t going to forc them to broadcast an particular thing on their air. in my mind, fox news had t apologize. fox knows how to tell th truth. the internal documents that we exposed in this lawsuit prov that fox news have to tell the truth. but no outside forces going to force them to do that. let